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WGC isn't St Albans and hence no. GN have been the poor relation for years and it continues even with clear evidence that WGC and Hatfield are expanding, quickly. 12 coaches for all services in peak is a must.

Yes have just seen that path on RTT so that must be the reason. Nice to see a 47 there again, must be at least 15 years since they stopped as the KGX Thunderbird allocation. Many thanks

Does anyone know what it was doing? I couldn't see any planned tour for today. There around 08.50 sitting slightly outside platform 6. Many thanks

I assume one set missing being the emergency stop unit on yesterday's 17.52 from KGX that tripped when it reached 75mph. Limped to Potters Bar (FL) and chaos behind ensued. Those emergency brakes work well though!

Yes with four trains per hour in the peaks to and from WGC it's much closer to 'turn up and go' which will certainly smooth things out and as discussed previously there is the faster route via Finsbury Park if needed, that will prove very useful if you are in a rush and don't mind standing until...

Doesn't your journey end/originate from Farringdon? If so if going to and from WGC this timetable saves you 12-15 minutes if you go via Finsbury Park. Not sure I would bother for a 313 but with the 717 then that surely is better if you get home earlier?

Some intetesting outcomes. In theory I can travel from City Thameslink to Hatfield in around 45 minutes with a change at Finsbury Park to a Moorgate service. Today the same journey takes 60 minutes based on wait time and the inflexibility of the xx:52 departure. Moreover Hatfield get a huge...

And noticeably rammed and full standing in many coaches by Finsbury Park. It wasn't like that yesterday! Where has the 365 on this service yesterday gone? I do hope to the 07.20 Letchworth-KGX service??

2Y85 is a 387 today, so will this remain so or change again on Monday? Would have been nice to have a couple more comfortable days on the well liked 365 before facing the inevitable.

Would an admin be able to insert the word "new" into the subject line of this thread as I missed a critical word?! My apologies.

A 'few'? There are very few winners and most lose capacity and have increased journey times. Many more qualified than me to give the examples!

Given the general consternation regarding the new GN timetable can I ask the question what is the actual benefit of a complete re-write before 24TPH can be achieved (to provide all the benefits of the core)? If on May 21st we just rolled over the timetable as it currently works with 700's being...

Why can't they be added to the system yet, I am curious to understand what they delay is as they are the most 'controversial' changes as they will confirm the full impact on some key southern GN stations.

This lack of finalisation regarding the southern end of GN drags on. Has anyone found a clear explanation why the Semi-Fast services from WGC are still missing? There are thousands of daily seats lost if these services are scrapped. Does anyone have the draft timetable for this 'Metro'...

How feasible would a Charter be via the core? Is diesel banned? Would it need an ED? Will it ever happen?

Yes all these key KGX slower services are still missing and I would love to know why as they are a the key part of this jigsaw and it worries me why they can't be shown yet.

Still missing the WGC-KGX semi fast services OR are GN seriously suggesting these are no longer running?

YET ANOTHER 313 failure with the 7.20 from Letchworth cancelled. This was not showing on GN app even after the time it was supposed to have departed so did it fail at Letchworth or earlier. Farcical for anyone to expect these units to work through the summer and fit around the new fact of fiction.

Not Stevenage but further south there, the WGC services.

Shunted under own power accross the fast up and down or via the flyover? An 08 Thunderbird anyone?