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Mogster

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Verstappens rear wing incident again shows the risk drivers are taking going into corners if the rear wing doesn't flip over correctly and provide anticipated down force. Not every circuit has such generous run off areas and FIA should be mindful about the risk some of these gimmicks are bringing to the sport in an attempt to spice up the racing.

It’s the teams responsibility to send out a safe car. Loooking for performance gains RBR have copied the Ferrari rear wing element but seem to be struggling to make it work properly. RBR need to make a decision, the old wing was working fine, will they revert to that spec for Spa?
 
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Teams already fuel their cars based on the chance of safety cars. If a team (and they all do it) short fuel their cars because there is a higher chance of safety cars then adding more laps isn‘t going to help.
Thats a strategy issue. If they dont have a safety car they run out of fuel anyway, so no issue. They use so little fuel under the safety car that this is not an issue and there will still always be a reduction in green flag laps as the only ones you get back are from letting lapped runners through

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It’s the teams responsibility to send out a safe car. Loooking for performance gains RBR have copied the Ferrari rear wing element but seem to be struggling to make it work properly. RBR need to make a decision, the old wing was working fine, will they revert to that spec for Spa?
Agreed, they appear to have opted for a higher efficiency package with lower margins for error at the moment which seems to be at odds with Verstappens driving style of wanting a car that tends to oversteer and wanting greater rotation.
 

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There was no need for a safety car at all. A virtual safety car would have been sufficient, since although a vehicle needed to enter the gravel trap to retrieve a car, a distinct lack of rain meant the risk of a Japan 2014 type tragedy was almost zero, with there being no rain and the addition of a virtual safety car compared to the conditions of that trajedy. There is probably a greater risk to life by having a Safety Car restart with all of the cars grouped together.
 

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There was no need for a safety car at all. A virtual safety car would have been sufficient, since although a vehicle needed to enter the gravel trap to retrieve a car, a distinct lack of rain meant the risk of a Japan 2014 type tragedy was almost zero, with there being no rain and the addition of a virtual safety car compared to the conditions of that trajedy. There is probably a greater risk to life by having a Safety Car restart with all of the cars grouped together.
Verstappen went off in the dry, but he's just an untalented newbie, so that doesn't count. The safety of the people outside cars matters too. They reduce risk by not putting marshalls in places where cars go off the track at high speed.
 

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Verstappen went off in the dry, but he's just an untalented newbie, so that doesn't count. The safety of the people outside cars matters too. They reduce risk by not putting marshalls in places where cars go off the track at high speed.
I think the speeds with a virtual safety car are lower than with a Safety car since no cars have to go faster than others in order to catch the safety car. There is much more risk of someone crossing or walking on the pavement of a public road being it by a car than there would have been to marshals being hit by a car under a virtual safety car.

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If the wreckage were in the middle of the track it would be a different story.
 

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I think the speeds with a virtual safety car are lower than with a Safety car since no cars have to go faster than others in order to catch the safety car. There is much more risk of someone crossing or walking on the pavement of a public road being it by a car than there would have been to marshals being hit by a car under a virtual safety car.

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If the wreckage were in the middle of the track it would be a different story.
Letting cars unlap themselves also means going faster...
 

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Strongly recommend watching at least the second half of the Indycar race from Markham (Toronto). Climax involved four cars on three different strategies converging for the win...
 

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Isack Hadjar will not race at the weekend’s Dutch Grand Prix due to a wrist injury. Liam Lawson will replace Hadjar at Red Bull with Yuki Tsunoda replacing Lawson at Racing Bulls
 

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Be nice to see Yuki back on the grid... but surprised Liam isn't having flashbacks from his time at RBR. Let's hope this weekend goes well for him.
 

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Max Verstappen has signed a contract extension until 2030 with Red Bull

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Be nice to see Yuki back on the grid... but surprised Liam isn't having flashbacks from his time at RBR. Let's hope this weekend goes well for him.

Be interesting to see how Liam goes, could do well or be a nightmare especially with it being a sprint weekend. I would have thought they’d have put Yuki in the Red Bull car especially as Isack will probably return for the Italian Grand Prix at Monza
 

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