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I wonder how likely a prosecution would be to succeed if you didn't have it, I doubt many people carry it once it's been loaded onto the Oyster card!

Have you read this thread? Want to read it again? The word 'space' is different to the word 'property'. So: - Public Space isn't the same as Public Property - Public Space isn't the same as Private Property - Public Space isn't the same as a banana Get where I'm going? :)

So hang on, you think it's a good idea for train managers to record conversations? But not passengers? I think I've lost interest in this conversation... recording in a public space is obviously legal, go have some fun on Google! Any it's obviously useful as you have just proved in your post...

Do you know what harrassment means? It would need to be persistent over a period of times, or agressive in nature, with intent, to be classed as harrassment. This case wouldn't come close. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- How did recording the conversation, in a...

I'm not going to continue arguing over the rest of the points as it is a matter of opinion, not fact. But on these points - it is not whether it is owned by a private entity, public sector etc. It is whether it is a public space, and whether you have a reasonable expectation of privacy...

I don't see how it can make it worse at all, you're perfectly entitled to do so as much as they are to cover trains by CCTV.... --- old post above --- --- new post below --- If you're in the wrong, then any 'upping the ante' of proving you're right will result in that, just as much as saying...

Peanuts. Monkeys.

Nothing good has ever come from outsourcing to India!

With the advent of camera phones etc it's always a good idea to record the situation if the TM is acting unreasonably or illegally. They often pipe down when they realise their bosses may see their behavior, or end up on next week's episode of WatchDog!

I've got to the stage now where if they refuse to sell me what I want, I'll ask again while recording a video on my phone and use that as evidence I have attempted to purchase a ticket but no issuing facilities were available. Often they don't like being filmed and refuse to respond, but that's...

I meant off route in the strict sense... ie the ticket is valid but for the ROUTE section of the ticket. I know PFs aren't applicable and the usual course of action is a excess fare, but I was curious whether you are technically liable to be MG11ed (presuming no intent) should you come across...

Can you be MG11ed for being off-route?

Hi, There's 5 of us going from London to Gatwick at the end of August, travelling out at 4pm and returning on a Saturday morning at 1am. Pax 1: BZ1-2 TC, Gold Card, 16-25 RCD Pax 2-4: 16-25 RCD Pax 5: No railcards/discounts I know this is a bit complex, but I wondered if someone could...

Out of interest - why did you enter into conversation with him? Surely it would have been much quicker to say 'no comment' and just show him the tickets, then write a quick letter saying 'The tickets were valid, see you in court' sort of thing to follow it up?

Stealing - i.e. theft - is completely unrelated. If there's a crime that's being committed, it's the breach of the byelaw. Handling stolen goods made me laugh though! Even if you were questioned over the ticket, how could they possibly, realistically, prove that the person that originally...

Can you have it renewed with a start date well into the future? Not everyone travels every week or even every month.

I'd argue you don't have to purchase a ticket as no ticket issuing facilities are available for the ticket (Railcard) that you want? Seems a bit unfair on the customer, especially if it's a renewal....

If you want to buy a railcard and use it for immediate travel, and are travelling from an un-staffed station, what do you do?

I think proof that once you've been overcharged would be sufficient proof to show you have previously attempted to pay the correct fare, but no facilities were available to do so. The rules aren't that you should touch out, it's that you should make an attempt to pay for travel. If you go to...

That seems a pretty good reason to just not touch out at all if it's going to over charge you! There shouldn't be any need to get off a train for the purposes of Oyster, terrible idea... they should just fix the bug! --- old post above --- --- new post below --- All the local services...