TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

[hexagon789]

It depends what is actually happening! @BMIFlyer's post from December, says that it'll be DT, TSO1, TSO2, and FO, but this article from April says DT, T1, T2, T3.

I would think that it'd be the former, as the image from which T1, T2, T3 are drawn looks like it may have been early in the program given the lack of TPE livery.

Seems strange to designate the intermediate coaches as TSO and FO but make the Driving Trailer just DT, that's just how I feel.

 

[BMIFlyer]

It depends what is actually happening! @BMIFlyer's post from December, says that it'll be DT, TSO1, TSO2, and FO, but this article from April says DT, T1, T2, T3.

I would think that it'd be the former, as the image from which T1, T2, T3 are drawn looks like it may have been early in the program given the lack of TPE livery.

Designation changed since I wrote the original post.



Loco, T1, T3-1, T3-2, T2, DT
Coaches in order: Loco, (E)(D)(C)(B)(A)

 

[hexagon789]

Loco, T1, T3-1, T3-2, T2, DT
(E) (D) (C) (B) (A)

That makes more sense in conjuction with DT, but rather unusual looking designations nevertheless.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Seems strange to designate the intermediate coaches as TSO and FO but make the Driving Trailer just DT, that's just how I feel.

They aren't - they're T1/2/3.

Will be interesting to see what exactly they are on the coach end data panels.

 

[BMIFlyer]

That makes more sense in conjuction with DT, but rather unusual looking designations nevertheless.

A break from the norm

 

[hexagon789]

They aren't - they're T1/2/3.

Will be interesting to see what exactly they are on the coach end data panels.

A break from the norm

I'd be very interested to see what the data panels will read. If they end up reading DTSO that would be hilarious.

I know they are due in service from next year, but have any dates been set?

 

[Ih8earlies]

Coach E?

I would have figured they would just skip the E and go straight to F like CrossCountry and I presume Virgin do with their 5 car Voyagers.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Aren't they in fixed formation, so no fiddling around with intermediate coaches?
So they are "units" really, apart from the loco.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Aren't they in fixed formation, so no fiddling around with intermediate coaches?
So they are "units" really, apart from the loco.

More like single ended 4-TCs in a sense yes.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Coach E?

I would have figured they would just skip the E and go straight to F like CrossCountry and I presume Virgin do with their 5 car Voyagers.

Isn't that because if they use both E and F it is easy to confuse the two, either by the letters on the vehicles being damaged or a printing error on tickets?

 

[Lanley]

Coach E?

I would have figured they would just skip the E and go straight to F like CrossCountry and I presume Virgin do with their 5 car Voyagers.

Virgin use Coach E for the first class driving car. I always thought it was odd for cross country to not use E however it makes sense if it is confused with F in printing errors.

 

[dp21]

Isn't that because if they use both E and F it is easy to confuse the two, either by the letters on the vehicles being damaged or a printing error on tickets?

Virgin use Coach E for the first class driving car. I always thought it was odd for cross country to not use E however it makes sense if it is confused with F in printing errors.

My understanding was that they missed out letters on the voyagers because they were designed to be extendable to 6-car units. As such that's why coaches B and E don't exist on a 4 car and E doesn't exist on a 5 car.

 

[Lanley]

My understanding was that they missed out letters on the voyagers because they were designed to be extendable to 6-car units. As such that's why coaches B and E don't exist on a 4 car and E doesn't exist on a 5 car.

That's entirely sensible. I wish it had happened! Hopefully there is scope to easily extend these TPE sets in the future.

 

[Tam]

At Velim today. No movement while I was there.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Does Velim function even on the weekend?

 

[Tam]

Does Velim function even on the weekend?

Yes, and evenings too. DB loco 102 001 was racing around the track while I was there yesterday (see video link below) and I have seen a lot of other activity there on various weekends over the years.

https://streamable.com/x1cpk

 

[BMIFlyer]

I have just read online that the second build set has this morning arrived in the U.K.

 

[Domh245]

I have just read online that the second build set has this morning arrived in the U.K.

Richard Clinnick saying that ROG have gone to Portbury to collect them, as evidenced here (37884, 37611, and 47812 with a bunch of carriages operating this service)

 

[3141]

Isn't that because if they use both E and F it is easy to confuse the two, either by the letters on the vehicles being damaged or a printing error on tickets?

Seems unlikely, because if you have a 5-car unit you won't be using both E and F. I think dp21 has the right answer in post #792.

 

[Spartacus]

Seems like we might have a move for them coming North, service code the same as the one going down: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O00577/2018/05/25/advanced

 

[palmersears]

Well it's on the move! Only a mere 121L passing Parson Street...

 

[Spartacus]

Couldn’t be on time, it’d embarrass all the other TPE trains!

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Couldn’t be on time, it’d embarrass all the other TPE trains!

Just reaching Longsight, only 24 down.

 

[sprinterguy]

Just clocked the second rake sitting to the north of the former Eurostar depot. One of very few occasions where I'm likely to see a TPE mark 5 rake hauled by a pair of 37s (coupled directly to the "blunt" end of the set - barrier vehicles and class 47 coupled to the cab end at the rear)!

 

[Nymanic]

There's likely to be a fair amount of photo and video content making its way online in the coming hours.

In the meantime, however, here's some footage from Heaton Chapel.

https://streamable.com/b801o

 

[59CosG95]

Well it's on the move! Only a mere 121L passing Parson Street...

Blame the trespassers at Bedminster for that. Almost pathetic fallacy for the new trains to be held up by forces beyond their control!

 

[Jamesrob637]

I took a quick break at work today and managed some VERY grainy shots of the consist passing over Stockport Viaduct

 

[HSTEd]

Its almost funny that the brand new hauled stock is delivered by a pair of ancient diesels which really should have been scrapped a long time ago.

 

[_toommm_]

Its almost funny that the brand new hauled stock is delivered by a pair of ancient diesels which really shoudl have been scrapped a long time ago.

Really shouldn't have been scrapped at all

 

[greyman42]

Why do they need all the barrier vehicles? It looked like there was 4 but I am not sure.