gray1404
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I've just tried adding a Railcard card to my account but it won't let me. It is returning an error message.
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TfW PAYG - North Wales
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Maybe try checking for an app update or contacting support in the morning.
gray1404
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I tried doing it on the website. Is this something that must be done on the app even though the website has the interface.
supervalkoinen
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It worked for me first attempt on the website.
Northerngirl
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At a quick look the prices seem very sensible, a day out to Rhyl will be £8.40 return from basically anywhere, and also almost identical pricing to the busses over shorter distances (3 vs 3.30), I for one will definitely be making good use of it
This is what I simply don't understand; the price disparity between contactless and regular tickets is now enormous. It's £25 for an Off-Peak Return from Runcorn East to Wrexham for example, vs £6.60 for two PAYG single journeys.
So why don't they cut the cost of regular tickets? It seems rather iniquitous that they are now effectively charging some of the most disadvantaged members of society (who don't have a bank account or card) more.
Apparently over 97% of UK adults have a bank account.
And the 2-3% who don't are disadvantaged when buying these fares.
It is rather silly that to fix what they even accept as broken fare anomalies they just create new types of fare. Surely it would have been possible to change the existing ones.
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3% of a big number is still a big number. That's over a million adults without one.
I would suggest that the fare structure is partly designed to accelerate the inevitable demise of cash and ticket offices.
Let alone children. It's readily possible for them to travel on their own, especially commuting to secondary school. Yet parents understandably wouldn't trust a lot of 11 year olds with a debit card - let alone the fact that there are few providers who will issue them in a child's name, and using an adult's card is not permitted by any card scheme's rules as far as I'm aware.
LNW-GW Joint
Veteran Member
I just failed to add my senior railcard to the PAYG section of the website ("failed to retrieve/add...").
gray1404
Established Member
That's exactly the error message I got trying to add a disabled persons Railcard.
A day out to Llandudno or Conwy is much better!
Presumably to split ticket you would need to touch out at Rhyl and drop back a train and buy a separate day return Rhyl to Llandudno ?
gray1404
Established Member
I wonder if there are validators on the platform at Rhyl so one can get straight back on the same train.
I don't believe so. It would probably be a bad idea. Seeing people tap off on the platform would make some people believe you could tap on on the platform for a west-bound train.
As usual, it's introduced cack handedly. Why is it not across the whole network? Just equip every station and turn it on when they're all done. No need for "trial" and "rollout" nonsense.
Prestatyn is more practical, the validators are on the island platform so you'd be able to reboard the same train.
If there was a plan to extend it then we would be prepared to wait. So far no such plan has been announced. Until one is, we'll assume that we're being left out.
chris53
Member
This may perhaps be a daft question but will the shut down of the coast line between Chester and Holyhead slow down the rollout?
The roll out (as far as the coast is concerned) is complete. No plans to expand past Rhyl have been announced, from memory the only section to be finished is Gobowen.
Quite. And I don't think there's anything "selfish" about being irritated that the government run operator is massively reducing fares in some places, and leaving other places to endure fares which have long been disproportionately higher than in some of the places which are being reduced further.
As this is all taxpayer funded, of course it gets people's back up.
As for would the month closure of our line (which even Network Rail wouldn't dream of elsewhere in the country) slow down the non-existent "rollout"? No, it wouldn't. If you've got stations closed for a month that's when you'd do it. No overnight working needed.
They're not doing that, and that's why I'll say there is nothing selfish about someone in North West Wales like me being annoyed.
Is it a paper or app based Railcard?
markymark2000
On Moderation
I think it's a shame that National Rail and TFWs site haven't been updated to encourage PAYG travel. NRE does it for Londons contactless zone to push people to pay contactless, so why not for Wales PAYG schemes? It feels like an easy win to get more people using the system as it puts the PAYG fares at peoples fingertips, and shows it as ticket option so it's easy promotion.