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TfGM Bee Network - fleet discussion

Class 466

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What's the reason why Enviro 400EVs went to Metroline? I was quite surprised to be honest that they didn't get a whole fleet of BZLs at the time
The 59 Enviro 400EVs were ordered for Queens Road - post-order they realised electrification was going to take far longer and Oldham was already electrified so the order was split (Oldham had the capacity to charge 34 more vehicles but not all 59) then the other 25 went to Metroline on the same basis that Hyde Road would have capacity post electrification.
 
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What's the reason why Enviro 400EVs went to Metroline? I was quite surprised to be honest that they didn't get a whole fleet of BZLs at the time
They were short of buses prior to mobilisation. I’d imagine the state of the scania’s and some of the B9’s played a big part but it worked quite well as Oldham were having major issues with their chargers and were struggling with the buses they already had so it worked out ok.
 

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They were short of buses prior to mobilisation. I’d imagine the state of the scania’s and some of the B9’s played a big part but it worked quite well as Oldham were having major issues with their chargers and were struggling with the buses they already had so it worked out ok.
Nothing to do with buses at mobilisation. How many E400EVs were in service in January? And remember Metroline declined to accept them until certain rectification work had been undertaken.

The answer from Class466 is on the mark.
 

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What do you mean by paint floats
It generally means extra vehicles added to a Depot to allow "resident" vehicles to go away for repainting. Once the repainting cycle is completed, the "float" vehicles would leave the depot, never forming part of the Depot's long term fleet.
 

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It generally means extra vehicles added to a Depot to allow "resident" vehicles to go away for repainting. Once the repainting cycle is completed, the "float" vehicles would leave the depot, never forming part of the Depot's long term fleet.
Oh right I've just never heard of the term before
 

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The thing with the MMC400 B5LHs is that for some reason they seem to be used more during the week than at weekends as there's only usually a couple out on Saturdays and its very rare I think that you will see one out on Sundays in stark contrast to the B5LHs over at Stagecoach which are out 7 days a week.
 

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Speaking of repainting, are stagecoach doing this on a depot by depot basis? Oldham seems to be slowly getting through their fleet (some B5LHs have been absent a while), but doesn't appear to be any movement at Stockport, just curious.
 

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Speaking of repainting, are stagecoach doing this on a depot by depot basis? Oldham seems to be slowly getting through their fleet (some B5LHs have been absent a while), but doesn't appear to be any movement at Stockport, just curious.
I think those B5LHs that are absent are not going to come back because they will soon be replaced once Middleton is electric or when those 220 new buses come
 

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Speaking of repainting, are stagecoach doing this on a depot by depot basis? Oldham seems to be slowly getting through their fleet (some B5LHs have been absent a while), but doesn't appear to be any movement at Stockport, just curious.
The B5 repaint/refurb programme at Oldham was stopped a long time ago.
 

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Ive noticed that 21248 was on the 280 yesterday according to bus times and appears to have run the full route, does this mean that a Strata can fit under the 9 foot bridge at Dunham after all?
 

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I was thinking the same about Stockport depot. We are nearly a year into Tranche 3 and only a couple of the vehicles inherited have been repainted into Bee Network livery.
 

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I was thinking the same about Stockport depot. We are nearly a year into Tranche 3 and only a couple of the vehicles inherited have been repainted into Bee Network livery.
Presumably because they are temporary pending the planned new electric depot.
 

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Has Sharston suddenly got some of their Street Decks back from Wigan? I have noticed the older E400 Hybrids don't seem to be used on the 86 this week. The vast majority of buses now seem to be the Street Decks where as a week ok it was a mixture of new and old.
 

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Has Sharston suddenly got some of their Street Decks back from Wigan? I have noticed the older E400 Hybrids don't seem to be used on the 86 this week. The vast majority of buses now seem to be the Street Decks where as a week ok it was a mixture of new and old.
It was Hyde road that sent them to Wigan however most Sharston’s fleet is Streetdecks but the hybrids are still there
 

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Just passed Middleton Bus Depot and seen some BZL’s and just wondering when they’ll be ready to be on the road.
 

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TFGM has offically approved the 220 new buses today so soon it will goodbye to the Tridents and B5s/B9s
They aren't due until the end of 2026 so still time yet, haven't found any info as to what buses they'll be though I'd personally like to see more BZLs
 

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They aren't due until the end of 2026 so still time yet, haven't found any info as to what buses they'll be though I'd personally like to see more BZLs
With the (Scottish) Government having given some loans/support to ADL recently I suspect that there maybe some indirect pressure to put at least some of the order there way....
 

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They’ll be gone sooner than next year once Middleton goes live.
Middle of December has been suggested elsewhere. Be interesting to see where some of the painted Tridents (E400’s) end up, with particular reference to the ex north east hybrids that are really hated by many.

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Will the Little Hulton ones also be going? Are they going elsewhere or scrap/resale?
As I understand it the little Hulton fleet is still under Stagecoach control not TFGM so stagecoach would presumably have to source buses from elsewhere to replace them.

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What is the latest news about this new depot?
I don’t think Stockport council have decided yet.
 

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Out of interest what's wrong with the ex North East Hybrids compared to the native Manchester and ex South Yorkshire ones? They all look the same to me but obviously there might be something different about them.
 

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