Smoking

[Class455]

I've seen someone smoking on Platform 13 at Clapham Junction in the open area, and I recently saw two people hiding round the corner under the bridge at Platform 15 at Clapham Junction. I also recently saw someone smoking weed (I can only assume its weed as it smelt worse than Tobacco, but I'm not a smoker and I never will be, so I can't tell) at Kenley sitting under the footbridge on Platform 1 so the CCTV couldn't see him.

It irritates me when someone smokes on a station with no regard for any other passengers, even though its illegal. I want to report them but by the time I do so, they would have put their fag out.

Smoking on a train is even worse. I was on 455 820 on a Caterham to London Victoria train and at Purley, it suddenly stunk of Cigarette smoke where I was sitting in the rear DTSO. I looked to see if it was anyone around me but there wasnt, but when we left Purley, the smell cleared. I don't think there was a guard on board, so I wondered how the smell emerged.

 

[Kite159]

Smoking in open air parts of the platform is one thing, but smoking underneath canopies or other enclosed areas is another thing which is completely worst.

 

[3141]

I don't think there was a guard on board, so I wondered how the smell emerged.

Guards may not appreciate the implications of that!

 

[Deepgreen]

Guards may not appreciate the implications of that!

It's not an unreasonable assumption that, if a smell of smoking suddenly pervades the rear-most passenger saloon and no passengers are smoking, that someone in the rear cab almost certainly is. That person, almost by definition, is quite likely to be a guard.

This is exactly what happened to me the other day on the North Downs line, hence the thread.

 

[Deepgreen]

Smoking in open air parts of the platform is one thing, but smoking underneath canopies or other enclosed areas is another thing which is completely worst.

I have noticed a trend towards not having 'no smoking' signs on open-air platforms, in which case I believe the bye-law states that a ban cannot be enforced (including for 'vaping'). LU has such signage at all of its stations, but many main line' TOCs do not. For example, at Redhill, there is not a single 'no smoking' sign anywhere on any of the three 12 car platforms that I can recall. I quite often see people smoking or vaping, and there is presumably nothing that can be done to stop them without any such signage.

Extract from the National Railway Bye-Laws, with my bold type:
'3. Smoking
No person shall smoke or carry a lighted pipe, cigar, cigarette, match, lighter or other lighted item on any part of the railway on or near which there is a notice indicating that smoking is not allowed.'

 

[3141]

It's not an unreasonable assumption that, if a smell of smoking suddenly pervades the rear-most passenger saloon and no passengers are smoking, that someone in the rear cab almost certainly is. That person, almost by definition, is quite likely to be a guard.

This is exactly what happened to me the other day on the North Downs line, hence the thread.

So my post was a total flop. Sorry about that - I should have read the start of the thread and not come in near the end.