Railway General Knowledge.

[DasLunatic]

Can I suggest, not March, but near Newcastle-upon-Tyne: the line south of the Tyne running westward from Low Fell, had / has a junction called Norwood Junction -- northward-diverging point, for a kind of loop line.

That was the one I was thinking of - it is now your floor.

 

[Calthrop]

Thanks. The old corny-comedy thing of the long-suffering users of various railways mockingly parodying the system’s name, using its initials – e.g. one which has cropped up in this quiz thread, “Muddle And Get Nowhere” for the Midland & Great Northern Joint...

What was the equivalent “humorous version”, for the Stratford-on-Avon & Midland Junction Railway?

 

[EbbwJunction1]

It was the "Slow, Miserable and Jolty".

 

[Calthrop]

I read of the "M" being "Mouldy"; but no doubt the local wags had variations on the joke. EbbwJunction1, the floor (or what with the Stratford stuff, the stage) is yours.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

I read of the "M" being "Mouldy"; but no doubt the local wags had variations on the joke. EbbwJunction1, the floor (or what with the Stratford stuff, the stage) is yours.

Thank you, and my apologies for the delay in posting this question.

In 1948, there were seven stations within the boundaries of Newport in South Wales. Only one of them remains (what used to be called Newport High Street); can you name the six that have closed, please?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Marshes Turnpike Gate
Newport Dock Street
Newport Mill Street
Caerleon
Newport Docks
Llanwern

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Marshes Turnpike Gate
Newport Dock Street
Newport Mill Street
Caerleon
Newport Docks
Llanwern

I think that I may have misled you by not saying passenger stations - sorry!

Anyway, you have two out of the seven I'm looking for - Caerleon and Llanwern. All the others were closed by 1948.

 

[krus_aragon]

Dodging stations that never had a passenger service, I can name:

Bassaleg (Brecon & Merthyr)
Bassaleg (Great Western)
Caerleon
Newport Dock Street
Newport Mill Street
Pontnewydd (lower)
Pontnewydd (upper)

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Dodging stations that never had a passenger service, I can name:

Bassaleg (Brecon & Merthyr)
Bassaleg Junction(Great Western)
Caerleon
Newport Dock Street
Newport Mill Street
Pontnewydd (lower)
Pontnewydd (upper)

Allowing for the change I've made above, you have three out of the seven.

Newport Dock Street and Newport Mill Street were closed in 1880, whilst neither Pontnewydd (lower) and Pontnewydd (upper) were or are in Newport.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Newport Courtybella crops up regularly on the Closed Stations Journey quiz, but that was only a temporary station prior to your date requirements.

 

[krus_aragon]

Sorry, I didn't do a good enough job of reading your question: missed the post-1948 bit and gave swven stations instead of six!

Let me try again:
Bassaleg
Bassaleg Junction
Caerleon
Llanwern
Marshfield

... And then I'm stumped for a sixth one.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Sorry, I didn't do a good enough job of reading your question: missed the post-1948 bit and gave swven stations instead of six!

Let me try again:
Bassaleg
Bassaleg Junction
Caerleon
Llanwern
Marshfield

... And then I'm stumped for a sixth one.

Yes, that's right; the seventh one was on the western edge of Newport, and the original station building is still visible but is now a private house.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The first station at Rogerstone (on a different site to the current one) did not close until 1962, but can you call this as being in the environs of Newport?

 

[EbbwJunction1]

The first station at Rogerstone (on a different site to the current one) did not close until 1962, but can you call this as being in the environs of Newport?

The list I have doesn't mention Rogerstone, but does include a different one beginning with "R"!

 

[Whistler40145]

If we're talking about the environs of Newport, I would guess that the station is Risca?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

If we're talking about the environs of Newport, I would guess that the station is Risca?

The original station of Risca, like that of Rogerstone, closed in 1962.

I am sure that both of these two stations can be said to be within the environs of Newport.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

If we're talking about the environs of Newport, I would guess that the station is Risca?

The original station of Risca, like that of Rogerstone, closed in 1962. I am sure that both of these two stations can be said to be within the environs of Newport.

No, it's not Risca .... according to Wikipedia, it's Rhiwderin!

Well done to everyone. I think that krus_aragon got the most correct answers, so I'll declare him the winner ... unless someone else objects!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

No, it's not Risca .... according to Wikipedia, it's Rhiwderin!

Of course, that station of Rhiwderin was the one that closed in 1954 and was on the line of the former Brecon and Merthyr Railway. Incidentally, on the same line was that of Church Road that closed in 1957. Was that one outside the environs on Newport?

We still also wait news of acceptance or not that both the original closed stations of both Rogerstone and Risca do actually fall within the environs of Newport.

 

[krus_aragon]

Thank you for the floor, and also thanks to the others that contributed answers.

One railway station in North Wales was renamed because holidaymakers kept disembarking one stop too early. Give either name of the station.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

One railway station in North Wales was renamed because holidaymakers kept disembarking one stop too early. Give either name of the station.

The station of Old Colwyn that closed in 1964 was one such station, where passengers for the much better known resort of Colwyn Bay were often in confusion as to which station to disembark.

 

[krus_aragon]

The station of Old Colwyn that closed in 1964 was one such station, where passengers for the much better known resort of Colwyn Bay were often in confusion as to which station to disembark.

That is indeed the station I had in mind. The station was originally called Colwyn, and was the first station in the area. The trouble started after Colwyn Bay opened a mile or two down the line to serve tourists, as those that got off too early had a long walk or wait for the next train.

As often happens, the surrounding area took the name of the station, and is still known as Old Colwyn.

Your floor, Paul.

 

[EbbwJunction1]

Of course, that station of Rhiwderin was the one that closed in 1954 and was on the line of the former Brecon and Merthyr Railway. Incidentally, on the same line was that of Church Road that closed in 1957. Was that one outside the environs on Newport?

We still also wait news of acceptance or not that both the original closed stations of both Rogerstone and Risca do actually fall within the environs of Newport.

I was using this article from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_stations_in_Newport
which says, amongst other things, this:

Former suburban stations

The following list of stations are all within the present city boundary, although all have subsequently closed.
Bassaleg Junction (1850-1962)
Bassaleg (1865-1962)
Caerleon (1874-1962)
Llanwern (1850-1960)
Marshes Turnpike Gate (1852-1853)
Marshfield (1850-1959)
Newport Courtybella (1850-1852)
Newport Mill Street (1853-1880)
Newport Dock Street (1852-1880)
Rhiwderin (1865-1954)

It doesn't mention a station called Church Road, and I'm not familiar with one with that name. If it was nearer to Newport than Rhiwderin, then it was inside the boundary.

Similarly, the article doesn't mention stations at Rogerstone and Risca. Depending on where the former actually was, it might have been inside the
boundary, but I'm sure that the latter wasn't. The current town of Risca isn't in the City of Newport as it's in the Borough of Caerphilly.

I am sorry for any inconvenience caused by any error(s) that I have made. I'll make sure that I do better next time!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

A coastal resort on the west coast of England had seven stations in its boundary all carrying the name of the resort at one time of their existance, of which only one now remains open. (Note : One of these only officially included the name of the resort from 1902-1904).

Can you name all of these stations.

 

[Welshman]

A coastal resort on the west coast of England had seven stations in its boundary all carrying the name of the resort at one time of their existance, of which only one now remains open. (Note : One of these only officially included the name of the resort from 1902-1904).

Can you name all of these stations.

Could they be:-

Southport Ash St; St Luke's; Lord St; Central; London St; Windsor Rd and the one remaining open - Chapel St?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Well, that was excellent. The one that only had Southport in its name from 1902 to 1904 was that of Southport St Lukes, which was just known as St Lukes for most of its existence.

However, Southport Ash Street was actually built on the site of Southport Windsor Road, so I am calling that one and the same station site.

Therefore, there is one final station still to name that is on a different line to any named so far, which I still need to be named.

 

[Welshman]

Eastbank St?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Eastbank St?

Well done. Southport Eastbank Street was the temporary terminus of the Liverpool, Crosby and Southport Railway until the new terminal station of Southport Chapel Street was ready. It opened on 21st July 1848 and closed on 22nd August 1851.

Over to you to set the next conundrum.

 

[Welshman]

Thank-you.
Eastbank St was on my original list, but as that made it 8 stations by my original reckoning, I discarded it. :roll:

OK.

Which now closed North of England station derived its name from the 16/17th Clifford Family, the Earls of Cumberland?

 

[steamybrian]

Thank-you.
Eastbank St was on my original list, but as that made it 8 stations by my original reckoning, I discarded it. :roll:

OK.

Which now closed North of England station derived its name from the 16/17th Clifford Family, the Earls of Cumberland?

Clifton and Lowther..?

 

[Welshman]

I see your reasoning, but sorry, not what I had in mind.

Think of the Clifford family home before it passed to the Duke of Devonshire in the 18c.