Both of which I would classify as "interesting", as per @KashmireHawker's description.
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PG
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Credit to both Albon and the Williams team as they had respectable race pace which got them a point for tenth.
Wonder if a deal might be done next year for Oscar Piastri to replace Latifi in the other Williams, given Latifi quite often crashes? Can't see either of Alpine's drivers going anywhere else so think Piastri needs to look elsewhere for a drive...
Red Bull do appear to have a potentially fragile car this year. I think Max has retired from more races this year due to mechanical issues than in the past couple of seasons combined? Interesting to see if Red Bull can get on top of those issues before Ferrari walk away with the titles or Merc sort out their issues.
DarloRich
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It would be great if i could get All4 to actually play the blidy GP!
PG
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It appears to be playing okay now
JohnMcL7
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Yes, he brings a lot of sponsorship money and I think you're right another driver would be expected to match that.
PG
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I, along with a fair few others, thought Haas were in trouble without Mazepin's cash. Maybe Williams aren't so dependant on drivers who can bring money into the team now that they are owned by Dorilton?
Geezertronic
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Regarding Haas, it was good to see Mick more competitive compared to Magnussen in both qualifying and the race where he was one place above his teammate in both. Be interesting to see if that continues.
Another bad weekend for both Aston Martin drivers, and Latifi is definitely costing Williams a few quid so I hope his sponsorship is worth it
Another bad weekend for both Aston Martin drivers, and Latifi is definitely costing Williams a few quid so I hope his sponsorship is worth it
PG
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That's what I was driving at with my Piastri comment, crashes have a real financial impact (excuse the puns). The way things are going at Aston Martin they'll be scavenging in the bin soon for parts!
Geezertronic
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And their issue is that the crashes are not just from Stroll but from Vettel as well, who in my opinion has not really been the same since 2017 Baku and when he binned it whilst in the lead of the German Grand Prix in 2018 as he only won twice more for Ferrari and was upstaged by his teammate Charles Leclerc in 2019 & 2020
PG
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Does make you wonder if their car is particularly unpredictable or are both drivers a bit sub-par?
FWIW I'd agree Vettel is no longer at the top of his game, unlike a certain elderly (in modern F1 terms) Spaniard!
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If anyone is interested I see Mazepin has given an interview to the BBC last week. Can't comment as I haven't bothered to watch it!
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Desiro360
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Enjoyed the Imola sprint race highlights this evening. Was impressed with both Haas drivers finishing in the top 10 creating the opportunity to score more points in the Grand Prix tomorrow.
Howardh
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Wonder if they will start to go down the route of some races abandoning the GP and replacing with three "sprints" and adding up the points from each? Like cricket where you get long Tests, but also one day games?
I'm not bothered either way r/e sprints, what does is that this weekend 34 points (max) are up for grabs rather than 26. So if a driver misses out a sprint weekend through covid, or an injury, or maybe a penalty, they are disadvantaged more so than a normal one.
Peter Mugridge
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Agree.
I dislike the sprint format for that exact reason, plus it feels like it takes something away from the actual race itself.
If they do that three sprints thing, they shouldn't expect me to watch any more.
Peregrine 4903
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Verstappen was so dominant there! What a race by him. And Perez is looking really good this season, his pace is much closer to Verstappen's.
Awful race for Ferrari, that's the one thing about Leclerc, he is prone to mistakes. And Sainz get very unlucky there.
What is going on with Hamilton though, Russell is comfortably outperforming him. Superb race by both Russell and Bottas, and Tsunda, Vettel and Norris were great as well.
Gasly was awful though, got stuck behind the slowest car on the grid for ages.
Awful race for Ferrari, that's the one thing about Leclerc, he is prone to mistakes. And Sainz get very unlucky there.
What is going on with Hamilton though, Russell is comfortably outperforming him. Superb race by both Russell and Bottas, and Tsunda, Vettel and Norris were great as well.
Gasly was awful though, got stuck behind the slowest car on the grid for ages.
Instead of George taking Botta’s seat it looks like Hamilton did.
D365
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You’ve answered it here. The Merc isn’t built for running in traffic (+ serious room for improvement).
greatvoyager
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In a way Lewis has, as he now has the second car wit the yellow camera, which would previously be the one Valtteri drove.
PG
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I can see the point about an absent driver losing more on a sprint weekend but I think this weekend was good from a fans viewpoint with plenty of entertainment. I do wonder why the race director took so long to enable DRS?
I'm unsure if Red Bull have got on top of their reliability woes so it'll be interesting to see how things go in the next few races.
birchesgreen
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It was due to the track still being wet offline where the DRS detection point was i believe.
KashmireHawker
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OFFICIAL: VW's CEO confirms that AUDI And Porsche are to ENTER FORMULA 1! 
I see Williams Audi as a good thing.OFFICIAL: VW's CEO confirms that AUDI And Porsche are to ENTER FORMULA 1!
D365
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All gone a bit quiet, hasn't it.
KashmireHawker
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That is thanks to the others not being warmed to the idea, yet, it seems.
Seeing Porsche are edging towards collabing with Red Bull Powertrains, it would have to be Audi to strike such a deal with say Andretti or to set up a team themselves, which is what has been considered reportedly alongside them speaking to Aston Martin and planning an offer for McLaren.
Regardless, 2 new Engine Suppliers on the grid is MASSIVE for the sport!
Massive seems a bit of a stretch imo. One is just taking over from Honda and the other is an unknown entity. What would be massive is if there they fielded their own teams or led to more teams in the future.