Class 93 Tri-mode Loco

[Harlequinuk]

93001 is now at Locomotion and will be named this weekend

 

[47286Dan]

This mornings working

93003 GROG WORKSP DY 260Q041E25 F NEWARKNGT N

Dan

 

[LocoGuy]

93001 was renamed “The Armed Forces Covenant” today at Shildon

 

[gledhill56]

Just seen 93001 on a low loader heading south on the A1M near Boroughbridge

 

[800001]

Just seen 93001 on a low loader heading south on the A1M near Boroughbridge

Heading back to Worksop from Shildon.

 

[88003]

First revenue earning services are planned for next week. Working for ROG

 

[Nottingham59]

First revenue earning services are planned for next week. Working for ROG

That's good to hear. Thanks for the info.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

First revenue earning services are planned for next week. Working for ROG

What will they be doing?

 

[Peter Sarf]

First revenue earning services are planned for next week. Working for ROG

I have been given the impression it is Derby to Ely STP 5Q46.

Realtime Trains | 5Q46 1002 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 07/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Q46 1002 departure from Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 07/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Presumably preceded by Worksop to Derby STP 0Q57.

Realtime Trains | 0Q57 0704 Worksop Down Yard to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) | 07/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 0Q57 0704 departure from Worksop Down Yard to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) on 07/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

There is also another Derby to Ely Derby STP 3Q87 ?.

Realtime Trains | 3Q87 2048 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) | 07/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 3Q87 2048 departure from Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) on 07/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

EDIT 00:45 - corrected 3Q87 to Derby not Ely (brain fade).

 

[800001]

First revenue earning services are planned for next week. Working for ROG

Has the ORR authorised the entry into service of the 93?

Not seen anything public (yet) to say they have.

Normally they tweet a copy of the letter stating that this has happened.

 

[Peter Sarf]

Has the ORR authorised the entry into service of the 93?

Not seen anything public (yet) to say they have.

Normally they tweet a copy of the letter stating that this has happened.

Last I read was :-

They were moved out of Worksop as there was trackwork going on at the entrance to the down yard. They were simply moved to Castle Donnington in case they were needed for driver training and ended up trapped in Worksop.

Word from inside the project is that the class 93s received their NRSC from NR for service operation on Friday. There has been a bit of a delay on this due to holiday season. Just waiting on AsBo approval now but this was just waiting for the NRSC.

That was 21/09/2025.

The runs I posted just two posts up look more like test runs ?.

 

[Bertie the bus]

The runs I posted just two posts up look more like test runs ?.

They don't look like test runs and 3Q87 is a Colas operated Network Rail test train. As amusing as it would be for the first service hauled by a 93 to do the Merseyrail loop there is no chance it will haul that train. You are just making wild guesses.

 

[Peter Sarf]

They don't look like test runs and 3Q87 is a Colas operated Network Rail test train. As amusing as it would be for the first service hauled by a 93 to do the Merseyrail loop there is no chance it will haul that train. You are just making wild guesses.

I was told about the first STP 5Q46 being a run for 93s so worth keeping an eye on that.

After reading that the 93s are not yet passed for use I replied wondering if 5Q46 was more a test - I think I mixed 5Q46 up with 3Q87 (the data fed to RTT might have changed since I first read it of course but just as likely I mixed it up with 3Q87 and I mixed up its destination anyway).

I have no idea how to work out whose test train 3Q87 is and I will be interested to see what can work that anyway.
(will be off topic if its not a 93 of course !, will be very amusing if it turns out 93s have third rail pickup shoes !).

I just listed the STPs other then 5Q46 for good measure.

Apologies if I caused confusion.

Others might have more information to add if any of it is relevant.

 

[Freightmaster]

I have no idea how to work out whose test train 3Q87 is..

For future reference, TSCs beginning 5249511x are Colas IM workings:




The [Test] is a bit of a giveaway, too!



MARK

 

[Bob figgis]

From an email posted on the local East Midlands Gen (EMRG) group last night, sticky digits included.

“ 0Q57 0704 Worksop Down Yard to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail)
NB : 93001 + 93006.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R16778/2025-10-07/detailed

5Q46 1002 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
NB : 93001 +6344 6346+ 93006.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K44587/2025-10-07/detailed

No forward path in RTT (yet) “

 

[Peter Sarf]

For future reference, TSCs beginning 5249511x are Colas IM workings:

View attachment 189537


The [Test] is a bit of a giveaway, too!



MARK

Thanks Mark. I never knew that long number identified the operator. There must be a list somewhere ?,
and I should save a link to it.

IM - in my 1970s memory that was Immingham Depot, I suspect its not now though ?.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 3 Oct 2025 ==

From an email posted on the local East Midlands Gen (EMRG) group last night, sticky digits included.

“ 0Q57 0704 Worksop Down Yard to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail)
NB : 93001 + 93006.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R16778/2025-10-07/detailed

5Q46 1002 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
NB : 93001 +6344 6346+ 93006.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K44587/2025-10-07/detailed

No forward path in RTT (yet) “

Thanks Bob for the formations. To my limited knowledge/memory the 6344 and 6346 look like barrier coaches OR are they some sort of track recording train ?.
EDIT - google leads me to believe they are barrier coaches (or more predominantly hoover washing machine parts !).

 

[43096]

IM - in my 1970s memory that was Immingham Depot, I suspect its not now though ?.

Infrastructure Monitoring

 

[norbitonflyer]

I have been given the impression it is Derby to Ely STP 5Q46.

What does STP stand for?

Who will it be earning revenue from?

 

[andyjhatton]

What does STP stand for?

Short Term Plan

 

[Peter Sarf]

What does STP stand for?

Who will it be earning revenue from?

As @andyjhatton says - STP stands for Short Term Plan (it appears as STP against schedules for a location when looking at RTT).

As for who its earning revenue from. Putting two and two together (badly I fear) I think the next job will be moving some stock from Ely between the barrier coaches. I vaguely recall from somewhere its a Rail Operations Group job.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 3 Oct 2025 ==

Infrastructure Monitoring

Thanks - I should have guessed that .

 

[AndrewE]

Thanks Bob for the formations. To my limited knowledge/memory the 6344 and 6346 look like barrier coaches OR are they some sort of track recording train ?.
EDIT - google leads me to believe they are barrier coaches (or more predominantly hoover washing machine parts !).

I thought that one of the specifications/justificatons for the 93s was that they wouldn't need barrier coaches at all, able to run at line-speed and doing away with the costs of slow paths and shunting etc.?

 

[Peter Sarf]

I thought that one of the specifications/justificatons for the 93s was that they wouldn't need barrier coaches at all, able to run at line-speed and doing away with the costs of slow paths and shunting etc.?

Yes, I seem to recall same.

Maybe its small steps at a time, the stock they are moving is not complete enough OR the two barrier coaches are gong to Ely for storage !.

 

[Suraggu]

Yes, I seem to recall same.

Maybe its small steps at a time, the stock they are moving is not complete enough OR the two barrier coaches are gong to Ely for storage !.

There is stock at Ely that cannot be translated too requiring the use of barriers.

 

[Iskra]

The Branchline society are running railtours at Barrow Hill with a Class 93 and Class 58 on Friday 10th October. A Deltic is also operating that day at the Roundhouse.

 

[800001]

From an email posted on the local East Midlands Gen (EMRG) group last night, sticky digits included.

“ 0Q57 0704 Worksop Down Yard to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail)
NB : 93001 + 93006.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R16778/2025-10-07/detailed

5Q46 1002 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
NB : 93001 +6344 6346+ 93006.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K44587/2025-10-07/detailed

No forward path in RTT (yet) “

Confirmation taken from a member of staff at ROG who deals with class 93, that it is indeed the path you mention above:-

Hi all, been a short while since you’ve had an update but there are some things happening next week that are likely to be of interest to many!

Tuesday 0Q57 & 5Q46 will be ran as a pair of 93’s (the latter with some barriers) with the first haulage move being undertaken on Thursday; likely 5Q70, signalling the start of these machines that have spent so long being scrutinised and tested, being worked on the Network.

You’ll ask me which ones, I’m confident in 001 ‘Armed Forces Covenant, but second is TBC

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[Peter Sarf]

Confirmation taken from a member of staff at ROG who deals with class 93, that it is indeed the path you mention above:-

Thankyou for the confirmation and extra information.

I expect there will be many on here waiting to see where 5Q70 (or anything else departing Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings) is headed, once it appears on RTT etc.

 

[norbitonflyer]

As for who its earning revenue from. Putting two and two together (badly I fear) I think the next job will be moving some stock from Ely between the barrier coaches.

Not sure that simply moving empty rolling stock around should count as revenue earning, even if the stock and haulage have different owners.
Wouldnt have done in old-school days when it was all one railway.

 

[Iskra]

Not sure that simply moving empty rolling stock around should count as revenue earning, even if the stock and haulage have different owners.
Wouldnt have done in old-school days when it was all one railway.

Revenue is revenue. The BranchLine Society article advertising one being used at Barrow Hill on Friday states that they are going to be used on fast container workings, presumably by Freightliner as somebody suggested earlier in this thread.

 

[800001]

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Not sure that simply moving empty rolling stock around should count as revenue earning, even if the stock and haulage have different owners.
Wouldnt have done in old-school days when it was all one railway.

it earning the company money? Yes, so it's revenue!

 

[Suraggu]

Not sure that simply moving empty rolling stock around should count as revenue earning, even if the stock and haulage have different owners.
Wouldnt have done in old-school days when it was all one railway.

Well it’s not one railway anymore. Leasing companies require their rolling stock moved around the country for a variety of reasons and that’s where companies like ROG earn part of their revenue from.