Class 185 refurbishment for TPE.

[BMIFlyer]

Oh. I was hoping that the testing was a race round the staff car park.

I shall suggest it in the next management meeting

 

[Mordac]

Testing/certification.

The new trolleys are taller, lighter, slimmer. Designed to fit into the new module on the 185 that will be installed. They will also be compatible with the new train fleets when they arrive.

That's all I can say really.

I hope that means they'll be able to climb the mountain we keep being told will separate the non-motored from the motored coaches on the 802s.

 

[185143]

i think 101 will be out a little bit sooner than that, at what stage of refurb is anyones guess though.

143 should be next for the new livery from what i'm told.

noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Internal comms suggest 185 101 will be out by the end of next week

 

[TC60054]

185143 seen in the new livery today working the 1742 Manchester Picc to Hull.

 

[northernchris]

185143 seen in the new livery today working the 1742 Manchester Picc to Hull.

Complete with Hull Capital of Culture 2017 vinyls

 

[Blindtraveler]

For the benifit of those posters easily confused could it be confirmed what the final internal refurb spec of the 185s is please i.e what changes are definatly being made?

 

[Defiance149]

Photo dated yesterday showing 185148 still in old colours so has not been repainted as per the list http://www.flickr.com/photos/ispottrains/34814727144

 

[TC60054]

Complete with Hull Capital of Culture 2017 vinyls

Was wondering what they were, wasn't able to look at them properly as it passed me. Cheers.

 

[BMIFlyer]

For the benifit of those posters easily confused could it be confirmed what the final internal refurb spec of the 185s is please i.e what changes are definatly being made?

Power sockets at every pair of seats
3G/4G WIFI (free)
New CCTV both internal and external with remote monitoring
Ethernet backbone (cabling basically)
New Passenger info system screens
New sinks and toilet pipe work
New carpets
LED lights replacing conventional bulbs
New seat covers and cushions in standard
Leather seats in 1st
New curtains in 1st
Tinted (bottom half) windows in 1st class
New 1st class table lights
New catering station with a fridge and extra storage
Internal walls all repainted/replaced
On board entertainment system fitted (streaming media)
New passenger info system voice

Plus a few other things only applicable to train crew useage so I won't mention them here.

 

[yorksrob]

Power sockets at every pair of seats
3G/4G WIFI (free)
New CCTV both internal and external with remote monitoring
Ethernet backbone (cabling basically)
New Passenger info system screens
New sinks and toilet pipe work
New carpets
LED lights replacing conventional bulbs
New seat covers and cushions in standard
Leather seats in 1st
New curtains in 1st
Tinted (bottom half) windows in 1st class
New 1st class table lights
New catering station with a fridge and extra storage
Internal walls all repainted/replaced
On board entertainment system fitted (streaming media)
New passenger info system voice

Plus a few other things only applicable to train crew useage so I won't mention them here.

And still the nouveau riche leather seat nonsense gets perpetuated. Who is to blame for starting it and when will it finish ?

 

[Bletchleyite]

New passenger info system voice

Biggest single improvement there. The existing voice is still in my view rude and clipped. There are so many nice, friendly Northern voices that I'm amazed they chose the one that seemed to belong to a hassled, annoyed guard. (I believe it was a member of staff rather than a professional voice artist).

 

[BMIFlyer]

And still the nouveau riche leather seat nonsense gets perpetuated. Who is to blame for starting it and when will it finish ?

Eh?

The trains ARE having leather seats in 1st class, like HT and GWR have. The new trains will also have the same. I have attached photos of both.

 

[Starmill]

We are rather going around in circles here, ladies and gentlemen. All of the above points about exactly what is happening, the renders, the seat covering and the automatic announcements are all on the first page of the thread too!

 

[Blindtraveler]

Thanks for confirming this, I believe things changed a number of times so excillent to know the final final whats what. The catering upgrades, power and new PIS are big ones for me in particular and hoping the replumb in the bogs makes them work a little better. Bring on the first unit!

 

[LowLevel]

And still the nouveau riche leather seat nonsense gets perpetuated. Who is to blame for starting it and when will it finish ?

I have no idea but even the buses have gone the other way around here with Trent Barton trumpeting it's removal on some of their refurbished buses recently along the lines of 'goodbye to sweaty leather seats'!

 

[Blindtraveler]

Aware this isnt the time or place for a leather seat debate but I quite like them. Maybe I'll start a new thread on this one?

 

[keith1879]

Aware this isnt the time or place for a leather seat debate but I quite like them. Maybe I'll start a new thread on this one?

So long as the purchasers of executive cars continue to demand leather seats I'm sure we will continue to see them in first class. It's a simple reaction to perceived demand. Also leather is much easier to keep clean than any piled fabric.

 

[Philip]

Is the next one due out soon?

 

[hibtastic]

Photo dated yesterday showing 185148 still in old colours so has not been repainted as per the list http://www.flickr.com/photos/ispottrains/34814727144

Yeah I was on it tonight for part of its journey to Scarborough - definitely still in old colours.

 

[47802]

So long as the purchasers of executive cars continue to demand leather seats I'm sure we will continue to see them in first class. It's a simple reaction to perceived demand. Also leather is much easier to keep clean than any piled fabric.

I have never understood that, when I'm looking to buy a car any with Leather seats are immediately discarded, as will TPE 1st Class

 

[BMIFlyer]

I have never understood that, when I'm looking to buy a car any with Leather seats are immediately discarded, as will TPE 1st Class

You may as well not bother with travel in 1st class on Hull Trains, GWR or VTEC then as well in that respect....

 

[Starmill]

You may as well not bother with travel in 1st class on Hull Trains, GWR or VTEC then as well in that respect....

And East Midlands Trains...

 

[route101]

Biggest single improvement there. The existing voice is still in my view rude and clipped. There are so many nice, friendly Northern voices that I'm amazed they chose the one that seemed to belong to a hassled, annoyed guard. (I believe it was a member of staff rather than a professional voice artist).

I thought it was that Steph McGovern thats on BBC breakfast .

 

[northwichcat]

I thought it was that Steph McGovern thats on BBC breakfast .

I thought all the voices used by the old franchise were staff who they considered to have friendly voices. I remember people being unhappy when Phil Sayer's voice was replaced by the voice of a TPE guard called Rob.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I thought all the voices used by the old franchise were staff who they considered to have friendly voices. I remember people being unhappy when Phil Sayer's voice was replaced by the voice of a TPE guard called Rob.

I love the idea that the female on-train voice could be in any way referred to as anything other than "rude, clipped and peremptory". The male one used on stations isn't much better.

They could have put some effort in and gone for a proper Yorkshire or Lancashire based voice artist with a genuinely warm, soft and welcoming voice. Or Phil Sayer, now sadly passed

At least it's not the dystopian future woman found all over the South East, I suppose. She always sounds a bit sad.

 

[northwichcat]

I love the idea that the female on-train voice could be in any way referred to as anything other than "rude, clipped and peremptory". The male one used on stations isn't much better.

They could have put some effort in and gone for a proper Yorkshire or Lancashire based voice artist with a genuinely warm, soft and welcoming voice. Or Phil Sayer, now sadly passed

At least it's not the dystopian future woman found all over the South East, I suppose. She always sounds a bit sad.

A new app giving the history of the city walls in Chester uses some voices well known locally including Granada Reports presenter Lucy Meacock and former Chester MP Gyles Brandreth. Why don't TOCs do something similar?

 

[ValleyLines142]

Photo dated yesterday showing 185148 still in old colours so has not been repainted as per the list http://www.flickr.com/photos/ispottrains/34814727144

The problem we have is that people are uploading pictures on Flickr of units supposedly in the new livery but in these cases it hasn't actually been the correct unit. People uploading need to ensure that they are putting the correct information and not just guessing as I have updated the list to show both 185110 and 185148 as being in the livery when they aren't! Because I live in Cardiff I am miles away from the 185s area of operations and am relying solely on other people's observations and uploads on Flickr!

There was also a picture of 185107 in the new livery when it was actually 185117!

So I believe we are at this?:

185101, 185102, 185103, 185104, 185105, 185106, 185107, 185108, 185109, 185110, 185111, 185112, 185113, 185114, 185115, 185116, 185117, 185118, 185119, 185120, 185121, 185122, 185123, 185124, 185125, 185126, 185127, 185128, 185129, 185130, 185131, 185132, 185133, 185134, 185135, 185136, 185137, 185138, 185139, 185140, 185141, 185142, 185143, 185144, 185145, 185146, 185147, 185148, 185149, 185150, 185151.

 

[mikemcniven]

The problem we have is that people are uploading pictures on Flickr of units supposedly in the new livery but in these cases it hasn't actually been the correct unit. People uploading need to ensure that they are putting the correct information and not just guessing as I have updated the list to show both 185110 and 185148 as being in the livery when they aren't! Because I live in Cardiff I am miles away from the 185s area of operations and am relying solely on other people's observations and uploads on Flickr!

There was also a picture of 185107 in the new livery when it was actually 185117!

So I believe we are at this?:

185101, 185102, 185103, 185104, 185105, 185106, 185107, 185108, 185109, 185110, 185111, 185112, 185113, 185114, 185115, 185116, 185117, 185118, 185119, 185120, 185121, 185122, 185123, 185124, 185125, 185126, 185127, 185128, 185129, 185130, 185131, 185132, 185133, 185134, 185135, 185136, 185137, 185138, 185139, 185140, 185141, 185142, 185143, 185144, 185145, 185146, 185147, 185148, 185149, 185150, 185151.

185130 now done, saw today at Piccadilly
Evidence:

Transpennine Express 185130 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

 

[ValleyLines142]

185130 now done, saw today at Piccadilly.

Thanks for this!

185101, 185102, 185103, 185104, 185105, 185106, 185107, 185108, 185109, 185110, 185111, 185112, 185113, 185114, 185115, 185116, 185117, 185118, 185119, 185120, 185121, 185122, 185123, 185124, 185125, 185126, 185127, 185128, 185129, 185130, 185131, 185132, 185133, 185134, 185135, 185136, 185137, 185138, 185139, 185140, 185141, 185142, 185143, 185144, 185145, 185146, 185147, 185148, 185149, 185150, 185151.