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D841 Roebuck

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Jumping back 40 years and 2 days, I was able to get the train back from Goole to Manchester, stopping at Doncaster to watch the Deltic special pass through.

Didn't record DMUs or haulage (some sort of DMU to Doncaster, almost certainly a Class 123/124 lashup from there to Manchester.

Here is the transcript of my spotting notes, with what I think were sight-scores underlined:

02/01/82 - Goole to Manchester

GOO: 08061, 08177, 08248; 37123, 37249

DON: 31317; 37097; 43058, 43086, 43089, 43099, 43112, 43117, 43122, 43146, 43155; 45070; 46056; 47086, 47121, 47402, 47426, 47513, 47523; 50041; 55009, 55010, 55022

SHF: 08782; 43167; 45010

MAN: 25178; 81019; 86207, 86218, 86237; 87024
 

1971martin

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Sunday 5th January 2003

86212 0950 Euston - M Keynes
87035 1113 M Keynes - Crewe
57304 1320 Crewe - Preston (87035 DIT) (via Stockport, Denton, Ashton Moss, Manchester V)
47805 1539 Preston - Crewe (87004 DIT) (via Manchester V, Ashton Moss, Denton, Stockport)
90006 1817 Crewe - M Keynes
43101+43099 2007 M Keynes - Euston

Wednesday 5th January 2022

91105 1033 Kings X - Leeds
91105 1315 Leeds - Stevenage
700143 1517 Stevenage - London Bridge
 

12LDA28C

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Sunday 5th January 1997

47825 Oxford - Winchester (1O08 0845 Wolverhampton - Poole)
47293 Winchester - Reading (1M84 1115 Poole - Manchester)
47853 Reading - Basingstoke (1O09 0913 Manchester - Poole)
47301 Basingstoke - Reading (1E27 1303 Poole - York)
47829 Reading - Birmingham New St (1E27 1303 Poole - York)
47827 Birmingham New St - Reading (1O90 1238 Glasgow - Brighton)
47839 Reading - Leamington Spa (1M17 1920 Paddington - Derby)
47807 Leamington Spa - Oxford (1V98 2055 Birmingham - Paddington)
 

xotGD

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Sunday 5th January 1997

47825 Oxford - Winchester (1O08 0845 Wolverhampton - Poole)
47293 Winchester - Reading (1M84 1115 Poole - Manchester)
47853 Reading - Basingstoke (1O09 0913 Manchester - Poole)
47301 Basingstoke - Reading (1E27 1303 Poole - York)
47829 Reading - Birmingham New St (1E27 1303 Poole - York)
47827 Birmingham New St - Reading (1O90 1238 Glasgow - Brighton)
47839 Reading - Leamington Spa (1M17 1920 Paddington - Derby)
47807 Leamington Spa - Oxford (1V98 2055 Birmingham - Paddington)
A bit chilly on a couple of those services!
 

Magdalia

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02/01/82 - Goole to Manchester

DON: 31317; 37097; 43058, 43086, 43089, 43099, 43112, 43117, 43122, 43146, 43155; 45070; 46056; 47086, 47121, 47402, 47426, 47513, 47523; 50041; 55009, 55010, 55022
50041 and 55010 were outside the Works. 37097 arrived on a Cambridge to Doncaster footex.
 

1D54

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29/03/85.
1M81 Leicester - Water Orton 31424. (failed)
1M81 Water Orton - New Street 31121.
1S19 New Street - Glas Central 86315.

30/03/85.
2D01 Glas QS Waverley Tunnel 47108 (failed)
2D01 Waverley Tunnel - Edinburgh 08755.
 

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0735 Berlin Hbf-Halle Hbf 401052
0907 Halle Hbf-Jena Paradies 112166
1014 Jena Paradies-Jena Göschwitz 9442104
1032 Jena Göschwitz-Erfurt Hbf 612117
1132 Erfurt Hbf-Nürnberg Hbf 401054
1301 Nürnberg Hbf-Büchenbach 143914
1333 Büchenbach-Schwabach 143292
1349 Schwabach-Treuchtlingen 445084/98
1434 Treuchtlingen-Donauwörth 440048
1520 Donauwörth-Augsburg Hbf 440009/19
1603 Augsburg Hbf-Bobingen 1648150
1620 Bobingen-Augsburg Hbf 642082/91
1642 Augsburg Hbf-Ingolstadt Hbf 648230
1803 Ingolstadt Hbf-Nürnberg Hbf 101137
1853 Nürnberg Hbf-Nürnberg Ostring 143870
1902 Nürnberg Ostring-Nürnberg Hbf 442226/38

Mid-way through my last pre-Covid Interrail. All First Class so very much enjoyed availing of the compartments on the ICE1.

Also managed ample loco haulage as the RE from Halle to Jena was solely in the hands of 112s and tarted up older Dostos, though do recall an annoyance with the vending machine at Jena-Paradies after it swallowed my change and my purchase got stuck - alleviated after a passenger saw and put their own money in to assist - we both ended up with something at least!

Donauwörth also a pleasant little town to wander around. I remember having about 40 minutes or so and I managed to do a nice circuit before continuing onwards to Augsburg.

I was also pleased to have managed the Swansong of 101s and their older hauled stock on the RE1 from München to Nürnberg. By this time the 102s and Skoda double-deck stock should have long since been in service but were plagued with reliability issues. I do recall First Class wasn't up to much, but it was at least arranged into compartments.
 

Bikeman78

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Saturday 13th December 1997

87022 0700 Euston - Birmingham NS
87017 2049 Birmingham NS - Euston

Monday 13th December 1999 - Day 6 of a 7 day all line rail rover

3493+3806+3554 0719 Folkestone W - Ashford (13.25)
1590 0746 Ashford - Barming (21.75)
3497 0945 Barming - Maidstone East (2.50)
3497 1000 Maidstone East - Victoria (40.00) (35 late start + ran non-stop!)
73206 1200 Victoria - Gatwick Apt (26.75)
1858+1861 1251 Gatwick Apt - Haywards Heath (11.25)
1861 1310 Haywards Heath - Lewes (12.25)
1733 1332 Lewes - Brighton (8.00)
47831 1418 Brighton - Kensington Olympia (51.75)
319004 1542 Kensington Olympia - E Croydon (11.25)
3585 1621 E Croydon - Tonbridge (30.00)
1615 1711 Tonbridge - Folkestone W (39.75)
Day 6 268.50 miles
Nothing recorded for December 10th so that was 6 days out of 7.
Weeks rover mileage 2908.25
Racking up those VEP miles! You did well to get 319004. It was a bag of bolts during its career with Connex. I wasn't at all surprised when it was the first of the class to be scrapped. Those Brighton to Rugby runs were bizarre but they wasted seven class 319s and got them off the Horsham line.
 

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Lovely thread. I was Leicester based and knocked around with people from my home city in the 80s as well as Brummies (MGM!!) A guy from Leamington who was known as The Hat. I actually got my old 'moves book' out this afternoon for the first time in 30 years. Oh the marvellous memories of eating crisp sandwiches with Newport Pete on the overnights in Scotland came flooding back!! Great stuff.
 

12LDA28C

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Lovely thread. I was Leicester based and knocked around with people from my home city in the 80s as well as Brummies (MGM!!) A guy from Leamington who was known as The Hat. I actually got my old 'moves book' out this afternoon for the first time in 30 years. Oh the marvellous memories of eating crisp sandwiches with Newport Pete on the overnights in Scotland came flooding back!! Great stuff.

I still have all my old spotting books and moves books and indeed still fill the current one in if I do a railtour. I often think that they would be very high on my list of things to save if my house caught fire, humans and animals excepted of course.
 

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Jumping back 40 years and 2 days, I was able to get the train back from Goole to Manchester, stopping at Doncaster to watch the Deltic special pass through.

Didn't record DMUs or haulage (some sort of DMU to Doncaster, almost certainly a Class 123/124 lashup from there to Manchester.

Here is the transcript of my spotting notes, with what I think were sight-scores underlined:

02/01/82 - Goole to Manchester

GOO: 08061, 08177, 08248; 37123, 37249

DON: 31317; 37097; 43058, 43086, 43089, 43099, 43112, 43117, 43122, 43146, 43155; 45070; 46056; 47086, 47121, 47402, 47426, 47513, 47523; 50041; 55009, 55010, 55022

SHF: 08782; 43167; 45010

MAN: 25178; 81019; 86207, 86218, 86237; 87024
Back in the days when almost 1,000 class 08s were scattered all over the country. I have a feeling the 18s are going to make me re-live those challenges and will be harder to get due to security.
 

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TUESDAY 6th JANUARY 1987:

47 626 Brighton-Gatwick Airport
EMU Gatwick Airport-Three Bridges
33 114 Three Bridges-Chichester via Hove
33 204 Chichester-Three Bridges via Hove
EMU Three Bridges-Haywards Heath
EMU Haywards Heath-Lewes
 

xotGD

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Would be great if we can have a another full calendar year of people's old moves, spotting trips and general reminiscences. Accompanying photos are most welcome!

I need to be a bit more active in scanning old photos too.
 

1971martin

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Sunday 6th January 2002

87001 1005 Euston - Rugby
47806 1148 Rugby - Preston (87001 DIT) (via Nuneaton, Brum NS, Wolverhampton, Crewe, Stockport, Denton, Ashton Moss, Manchester Vic & Bolton)
47757 1540 Preston - Crewe (90004 DIT) (via Bolton, Manchester P & Stockport)
90006 1842 Crewe - Euston

Thursday 6th January 2011

90045 1043 Euston - Birmingham NS
90045 1230 Birmingham NS - Euston
90045 1443 Euston - Birmingham NS
90045 1630 Birmingham NS - Euston
Which after a long gap of seven years nicely took me to 48/50 for class 90s for haulage.

Monday 6th January 2020

321444+321314 1013 Liverpool St - Shenfield
360101+360103 1041 Shenfield - Chelmsford
90009 1103 Chelmsford - Ipswich
90001 1209 Ipswich - Norwich
90001 1330 Norwich - Colchester
90003 1447 Colchester - Norwich
90011 1600 Norwich - Colchester
321437+321422 1717 Colchester - Ipswich
90006 1748 Ipswich - Liverpool St
 

1971martin

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Racking up those VEP miles! You did well to get 319004. It was a bag of bolts during its career with Connex. I wasn't at all surprised when it was the first of the class to be scrapped. Those Brighton to Rugby runs were bizarre but they wasted seven class 319s and got them off the Horsham line.
Living in Kent, I was largely lumbered with VEPs, though of course there were the CEPs and later some CIGs joined them.

I found those workings were a useful way to get from the Southern to the WCML and back without using the Underground and had most of the 319/0s doing that. Ironic now that they are running out of Euston!
 

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Living in Kent, I was largely lumbered with VEPs, though of course there were the CEPs and later some CIGs joined them.

I found those workings were a useful way to get from the Southern to the WCML and back without using the Underground and had most of the 319/0s doing that. Ironic now that they are running out of Euston!
The CEPs and VEPs did have booked diagrams though of course substitutions were common. I had two attempts at covering the entire South Eastern main line network on CEPs in a day. Managed most of it on both occasions. I'll have to dig through the notebooks and post the moves.

The heaters on the former Connex 319s still don't work, if recent experience is anything to go by. Some things never change. I think it's fair to say I miss the VEPs more than the I'll miss the 319s. The former were always toasty warm on early trains out of Horsham, the latter were flipping freezing.
 

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WEDNESDAY 7th JANUARY 1987:

47 618 Brighton-Gatwick Airport
EMU Gatwick Airport-Three Bridges
33 118 Three Bridges-Chichester via Hove
33 032 Chichester-Three Bridges via Hove
EMU Three Bridges-Haywards Heath
207 003 Haywards Heath-Lewes
 

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Wednesday 7th January 1987

43120+43053 11:04 Derby-Sheffield
43053+43120 12:45 Sheffield Derby
 

1971martin

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Monday 7th January 2019

90006 0938 Stratford - Ipswich
90015 1108 Ipswich - Norwich
90004 1300 Norwich - Colchester
90012 1430 Colchester - Liverpool St
90004 1530 Liverpool St - Manningtree
90005 1653 Manningtree - Chelmsford
321424+321327+321366 1726 Chelmsford - Shenfield
315820+315839 1744 Shenfield - Stratford

Tuesday 7th January 2020

90006 1030 Liverpool St - Ipswich
90007 1155 Ipswich - Norwich
90006 1300 Norwich - Ipswich
90014 1409 Ipswich - Liverpool St
321320+321421 1535 Liverpool St - Shenfield
321358+321348 1605 Shenfield - Liverpool St
 

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Thursday 06/01/00
I was called at short notice to work at Mossend to cover for annual leave / sickness, so I headed off north …
43148 + 43012 0730 Reading – Paddington
87028 0835 Euston – Motherwell
After I finished work I had to head south again, so I had booked a place on the Fort William sleepers:
303 014 Bellshill – Glasgow Central LL
156 442 Glasgow Queen Street – Rannoch
(I think this is the only time I ever alighted at Rannoch).
37413 2107 Rannoch – Edinburgh Waverley via Westerton, Cowlairs curve, Falkirk High

Friday 07/01/00
Whilst I was enjoying my 37/4 haulage on the Fort Bill portion, the Inverness portion wasn’t faring so well. 47791 expired on the climb to Culloden, so after some delay 66055 assisted forward to Perth, where 47773 took over. We suffered a prolonged fester at Edinburgh awaiting the arrival of the Inverness portion. Eventually …
90021 0134 Edinburgh Waverley – Crewe, 114’ -> 156’ late.
I was supposed to be attending a meeting at Birmingham International, so I bailed out at Crewe, for:
87011 0809 Crewe – Rugby
321 402 Rugby – Birmingham International
After the meeting …
47709 1416 Birmingham International – Reading

__________________________________________________________________________
Thursday 06/01/11
I was at work in Euston when I found out 90045 was out vice 390 on the Birminghams.
As that was a low mileage loco for me, I took a couple of hours off work and had it:
90045 1443 Euston – Birmingham International
390045 1600 Birmingham International – Rugby
 

1971martin

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Indeed! It wasn't a particularly common 90 on passenger, so I wasn't about to let it go.
There's more to come from that particular loco in a few weeks ...
I also had some more off that one in January. Coming soon.
 

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THURSDAY 8th JANUARY 1987:

EMU Brighton-Three Bridges
33 032 Three Bridges-Chichester via Hove
33 040 Chichester-Three Bridges via Hove
EMU Three Bridges-Haywards Heath
EMU Haywards Heath-Lewes
 

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