Arriva Trains Wales - it’s the final countdown

[Tumbleweed]

If my Welsh spelling was incorrect, so thanks for that anyway!

You're Welcome/Croeso

 

[Teflon Lettuce]

Thanks! Interesting, it looks different as I was expecting something beginning with "S" or some resemblance like the translations for Cardiff, Chester, Wrexham & Hereford!



That's true of Swansea having no Welsh translation that I was looking up out of curosity to see what it could be, as Welsh for swan is alarch and sea is Môr so "sea of swan" therefore Môralarch. As you say the English for Abertawe would be Tawemouth.

Swansea is believed to take it's English name from the Norse as it was founded by the Vikings... wikipedia {for what THAT's worth} has a bit about the entymology of the name

 

[krus_aragon]

I think Hereford is 'Henffordd', meaning 'Old Way/Road'?

Yeup.
Welsh names for English places on the Marches line are (as I recall):
Cryw: Crewe (Somewhat contentious, but used by ATW)
Eglwys Wen: Whitchurch
Amwythig: Shrewsbury
Llanllienni: Leominster
Llwydlo: Ludlow
Henffordd: Hereford

 

[dorsetdesiro]

Yeup.
Welsh names for English places on the Marches line are (as I recall):
Cryw: Crewe (Somewhat contentious, but used by ATW)
Eglwys Wen: Whitchurch
Amwythig: Shrewsbury
Llanllienni: Leominster
Llwydlo: Ludlow
Henffordd: Hereford

Diolch!

It'll be interesting to see & hear the translations for Liverpool Lime Street & Manchester Airport if KAW/TfW intend to include them!

 

[krus_aragon]

Diolch!

It'll be interesting to see & hear the translations for Liverpool Lime Street & Manchester Airport if KAW/TfW intend to include them!

Most certainly: Manceinion Piccadilly and Maes Awyr Manceinion are already part and parcel of station announcements in North Wales, and Lerpwl Lime Street (I presume) will be heard as far away as Cardiff Central in a few years...

 

[InterCity:125]

Will the next franchise run to BTM it has GWR got that covered?

 

[Parallel]

I've put together a (rather shoddy) station announcement of what a future TfW service may sound like:

 

[krus_aragon]

Will the next franchise run to BTM it has GWR got that covered?

The DfT said there'd be no scope for the new franchise to run trains to Bristol for several years, until some quadrupling of the route on the English side was finished. This was stated in the recently declassified Invitation to Tender that KA submitted thir bid against.

 

[Gwenllian2001]

Amwythig {pronounced am-OI-thig or am-WIH-thig depending on where in Wales you're from}

It doesn't matter where you're from. It's pronounced AMOOYTHIG. OO as in moon; Y as in any and TH as in thing.

 

[Teflon Lettuce]

It doesn't matter where you're from. It's pronounced AMOOYTHIG. OO as in moon; Y as in any and TH as in thing.

oh dear... read my post on another thread about my housename.. "Llwyn" pronounced by almost everyone I know {including my landlord who's a native Welsh speaker - 1st language- and who's family has owned the farm for over 150 yrs} as Khloo-in ... all except half or dozen N Walians that I know that INSIST that everyone else is wrong and it should be Khloin... the wy dipthong is one that has different pronunciation depending on a) the word and b) local dialect... it's quite simple to understand really... if you say OO-ih slowly and then speed up each time you say it you eventually end up with oi

 

[Cardiff123]

Here's the 'Thank you' (or 'Diolch' in Welsh) open letter from Tom Joyner to ATW customers.



https://arrivatrainswales-newsroom.prgloo.com/news/diolch-to-all-our-customers-and-stakeholders

 

[DavidGrain]

For those of you who have asked how RTT will show the trains at the time of change over, my guess is that they will continue to show AW for some time based on the fact that they are still showing LM having announced sometime ago that they will show LNW and WMR trains separately.

 

[Bikeman78]

As ATW start talking to their successors regarding an orderly handover in the autumn, perhaps it’s time to assess their time on the franchise.

My view? It’s been underwhelming. They showed little interest in providing more than they needed to: the continued lack of power points on their flagship long distance 175 trains being the leading case in point in not grasping an initiative, but on the other hand, they always managed to get me home (sometimes on a rather elderly bustitution) if they had rolling stock problems.

I remember when there was engineering work about 10 years ago between Cardiff and Caerphilly. Buses ran between Caerphilly and Taffs Well. Most of them were ex Cardiff Bus Volvo Ailsas supplied by Edwards. Slogging up Nantgarw hill with a full load of 70 passengers was great fun!

 

[PHILIPE]

For those of you who have asked how RTT will show the trains at the time of change over, my guess is that they will continue to show AW for some time based on the fact that they are still showing LM having announced sometime ago that they will show LNW and WMR trains separately.

They may not change until the next Timetable start date

 

[PR1Berske]

Most certainly: Manceinion Piccadilly and Maes Awyr Manceinion are already part and parcel of station announcements in North Wales, and Lerpwl Lime Street (I presume) will be heard as far away as Cardiff Central in a few years...

Stryd Leim Lerpwl for that extra touch.

 

[krus_aragon]

Stryd Leim Lerpwl for that extra touch.

Possibly, but from memory ATW currently go for Manceinion Oxford Road and Bryste Parkway, when they could translate the whole name if they wished.

 

[Gareth Marston]

Am i missing something here but how does all this Welsh language angst actually help when an already well loaded two car train pulls into a busy platform? Which is what the vast majority of real passengers are most concerned about.

 

[Robertj21a]

What has much of this to do with the original topic ?

 

[krus_aragon]

Am i missing something here but how does all this Welsh language angst actually help when an already well loaded two car train pulls into a busy platform? Which is what the vast majority of real passengers are most concerned about.

Nothing, other than the language you choose to complain in!

 

[Honest Ross]

I will miss Arriva Trains Wales.

 

[Groningen]

Another headline from the Independent:

Man lambasts Arriva Trains Wales after being charged 10% of cash found in his lost wallet

They also charge other found items.
Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rs-lost-wallet-property-charges-a8536946.html

 

[CardiffKid]

Another headline from the Independent:


They also charge other found items.
Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rs-lost-wallet-property-charges-a8536946.html

As do many other rail companies. The 10% of cash (capped at £10) is odd. A fixed £4/5 might be better.

 

[CardiffKid]

They've now changed their policy:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...9b7e60e4b013b097798d85?utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

Arriva Trains Wales has been forced to change its policy on charging people who have lost their wallets 10% of the cash found in them following a backlash.

The policy came to light when Adam Howells, whose lost wallet was found by the train company, took to Twitter to complain about the unexpected charge, which was on top of a £2 return fee.

The train company said it was changing its rules and would be refunding Howells the percentage he was charged.

A spokeswoman said: “Our customers’ feedback is really important to us and following recent feedback on this issue we will now be changing our policy with immediate effect.

“In this instance we are happy to refund the percentage that was charged to the customer who brought this to our attention.

“We are happy to begin the process of reviewing the lost property policy with customer groups and rail industry regulatory bodies.”

 

[WelshBluebird]

I wonder if they would have bothered if they weren't literally about to hand the keys over to another company!

 

[Darandio]

As do many other rail companies. The 10% of cash (capped at £10) is odd. A fixed £4/5 might be better.

Some kind of charge I can understand. Physically removing the money from the wallet and putting it in their till is another matter entirely. Then to also tell the guy his cards are shredded but they are unable to provide any proof of them doing so. Uncomfortable.

 

[krus_aragon]

Some kind of charge I can understand. Physically removing the money from the wallet and putting it in their till is another matter entirely. Then to also tell the guy his cards are shredded but they are unable to provide any proof of them doing so. Uncomfortable.

I'm working on memory here, but that was also the policy at a retail business I've worked at (not that we ever had occasion to use it). The theory is that there is then a paper trail for the money, and it isn't left lying around somewhere for it to get mislaid, mixed up with takings, or picked up by sticky fingers.

Taking a cut of the money, that's another issue.

 

[CardiffKid]

I see the usual, the railways should be for people not for profit brigade are jumping on this.

Anyone know/remember what BR did?

FWIW, two and a bit years ago I lost my mobile on a Valley Lines train, the day after I recovered it from Cardiff Central after speaking to a guard who advised me, anything found during the day ended up in Cardiff before going to Newport for processing. Didn't pay anything for it. Don't know if that's the norm or if I was lucky/the dispatcher was feeling kind etc.

 

[PHILIPE]

They've now changed their policy:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...9b7e60e4b013b097798d85?utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

ATW Twitter Feed has had very little on it for the last couple of days apart from have turned into discussions on Lost Property

 

[6Gman]

Stryd Leim Lerpwl for that extra touch.

Stryd Pisgwydd actually.

 

[6Gman]

Am i missing something here but how does all this Welsh language angst actually help when an already well loaded two car train pulls into a busy platform? Which is what the vast majority of real passengers are most concerned about.

Doesn't help it at all.

Neither does it make it any worse.