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Quell surprise! The 313 is a bag of bones to travel on, seats are too high and leg room non existent. Smelly, slow and cramped and 40+ years old.
How on earth can the 717 not be vast and seriously overdue upgrade?
Take a cusion if supreme luxury is required on a short journey to town.
That would be "first stop" Stevenage passengers?
With fast frequent services on FL and even the sometimes LNER option I find that impossible to believe!
Excellent news regarding the 717's, they will make a huge difference and being "stuck behind a slow" won't be the painful experience it is with the 313.
Sadly this thread is suffering the same negative vibe that most GN related threads do, seems some are never quite satisfied.
GN are getting...
Where is the GTR 73 located? I didn't know they GTR had one, are there any stats on its frequently of use?
However that fact makes it even more odd that there has never been one positioned on GN.
How many stored ED's are there?
Then let Network Rail hire drivers and take the responsibility of Thunderbird duties. Charge LNER and GN for cover from 04.00-21.00 regardless of callouts. By suggesting the two principal operators are responsible for making this work misses the point, they will never agree and hence get the...
A permanent Thunderbird at WGC would seems to make a lot of sense. Plenty of stored traction that could be dusted down and used to supplement the 67 at KGX and whatever is spare at Peterborough. This approach appears seems to work on on Sodor.
And we are now in September and the relief driver situation strikes again at Finsbury Park. 08.08 Horsham service blocking down fast and will be sat here for another ten minutes at least.
Oh and it's Pancras....
Overrunning engineering work announced at 8.10....That's all right then....
https://www.greatnorthernrail.com/travel-information/plan-your-journey/service-updates?uq=636715556728440000#INCB4A994A1C2414BFFBAFFAD875E5D2934
Slow, uncomfortable, dirty, smelly, miserable units that have held back GN for years. Yes we will all be nostalgic when they finally all go but talks of railtours is a bit much?
Most of us miss the 317 and previously the 312 but these provided comfort and speed, the 313/5 units should have been...
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