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What did mid-Cheshire lobby do/want? They were completely defeated in the last major route changes no?

I hope this doesn’t lead to continuous strikes/overtiem ban. Otherwise DOO will be back on the minds of many again.

Nothing official but there was that 185 run up the S+C a few months ago. No reason was given at the time.

It’s certainly not the most dreadful. Surely that would be Manchester-Knutsford-Chester no? They had to fight for 10-15 years to get away from 1tp3hr on Sundays. I don’t think there’s much sympathy/good will left due to how detrimental the tiny but noisy Southport lobby has been on competing...

Do any Avanti staff have route knowledge for that?

TPE should secure ticket acceptable with Scotrail/Avanti no? if Avanti are running Glasgow shuttles.

Whoever inputted TPE’s amended services has not inputted Bolton’s normal pick-up and set down restrictions. Can these be used to travel with Manchester without getting agro from the staff? https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C26568/2025-08-04#allox_id=0

I see TPE plan to run to Carlisle if they can. How Avanti can get away with nothing north of Preston almost weekly is shocking.

Please stop the comparison with six car 331s. Northern was very clear from the start that having all three car 331s on the west side was always temporary. Comparing six car 323 to three/four car 331 is the reality of what west side stock is available. Single 331s are you’ve got standing almost...

Northern was very clear from the start that six car 331s on the west side was never permanent. I for one massively support six car 323 diagrams. 554 seats every 30 minutes is a complete game changer.

Has there been an extension? In another thread there was suggestion the first TFW 158s go off lease early 2026.

How are Northern still paying well anything for these units? Its time to call it, nice and reliable ex-TFW 158s going off lease soon....

Do TfW crews still maintain Mid-Cheshire line competencies for diversions? I’m guessing not as all cancellations for them.

That’s sad. Is the Southport facing bay big enough to keep a 769 out of the way till it’s next needed?

Both platforms at Lostock are still wood.

Regardless of rules being followed this has terrible optics. Another few families that will probably not use rail again *sigh*

A few months didn’t we have recurring rumours of Northern expressing interested in the TfW 158s as a replacement that are going off lease later this year. That sounds like a lot more viable than returning out of use stock to service.

Manchester Victoria based staff have a reputation of being quite reasonable no? You should turn your attention to Blackpool based crews who insist on being traction on routes/traction they don't actively use...

HS2 Ltd provided this map a few years back. I guess the proposed bridge extension and reopening the tunnel are dead now?

Did the passengers get off on that platform?