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Possibly but, from memory, they may have to run back down on the up lines as far as Wimbledon before being able to get onto the down lines meaning the whole thing would be completely impractical for the amount of traffic required (unless the low utilisation today makes that possible?).

Fully agreed. Of the SWT liveries, the long-distance-white was the worst in my opinion just because of the tendency to show the dirt too easily. From the only shot we have of the replacement it looks like it's going to suffer in much the same way. I guess they could have been sneaky and gone for...

They were used when the class 508s ran round SWT (sorry SWR) and Southern land as four car units in the BR days before going to Merseyrail as three car units. The 'spare' cars then went into the second round of 455s that were built (confusingly, the 455/7s where the /8s were built first).

Really? Wow, how many train painters workshops did you think were available at 2 o'clock on a Sunday morning?

I haven't seen one (455 or 456) without the SWT text go past the house yet but I'm not religiously watching the line.

Agreed. I sometimes wonder about the swoosh too to be honest although the painted colours on the early 707 photos are a good indication that you're right.

Argh! Duplicated.

Yes, I can see that. I want to say I'm not impressed but the reality is that I've lived with SWT for the entirety of their existence and that is what I'm used to. So any feelings on the change are biased towards the negative. From a punter's point of view (in red train land) , however, I would...

Ah. So the question then becomes 'If you have a railcard, has it been added to the Oyster card?' But I'm getting out of my depth now.

Using the single fare finder on MikeWh's site, the single fare is reported as £8.10 and covering zones 2 outward so it looks like you were charged correctly. The pink reader would have made difference under these circumstances since Clapham Junction is in zone 2. Edit: The TfL site shows an...

Oh, for heavens sake, when will people finally give up imposing their own rules on this? This is getting stupid and not a little annoying. They set some rules. They met them to their own satisfaction. Whether they feel they passed or failed really isn't down to anyone on here and...I've just...

I agree. I doubt they diverted people from the upgrade works to deal with this, it will surely be whatever response team is normally on standby for this sort of thing leaving the works to get on as planned. I imagine some trained heads popped over when this all happened but they wouldn't have...

As with everything, I would think that depends on what conditions of handover exist in the SWT franchise agreement. If trains are to be debranded before handover, then debranded they need to be.

Pictures on Twitter and ITN look pretty conclusive to this layman. Putting 2 and 2 together (and possibly getting 5) it looks very much like the points were wrong and the 456 was directed into an already occupied line getting lifted off the track as a result by the pressure from the Network Rail...

Shades of Beeching and East Grinstead I feel. He's my local MP too :( The ten cars seem to be running quite well this far out although the extended timings into Waterloo must be helping somewhat. I persuaded my wife that perhaps changing at Vauxhall on Wednesday may not be as easy as she had...

Atually, it's exactly what I'd expect (having never gone through a franchise changeover before). From the passenger perspective, the railway will carry on as before. A complete hiatus in information provision just because the owner of the service is changing would be a terrible way to behave and...

I can see a post with a passing assumption that free passes were given but that was in the form of a comment on the RDG sponsership, not anything that even claimed to be actually true but I freely admit that I haven't re-read all of the the thread. Can you at least point me at a post that...

That's easy to say but can you prove it please? Just last week they were still talking about buying 14-day All Line Rovers so this just looks like rumours/sour grapes at the moment.

As a relative newcomer and low-poster, I'd argue with this in the wider sense that in certain areas (of knowledge) there can be quite a lot of what appears to be almost blinkered arrogance in the sense of 'I don't see the value in this so there clearly isn't any value in it' and I think it's...

What they said. If I were taking over a project, I wouldn't commit to anything until I had my feet well under the table. Hopefully this is nothing more than that and people will treat it as such rather than reacting to what clearly hasn't been said.