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True. :D They're a very high maintenance train and nobody could maintain them better than OOC. To be honest, they're not a bad train to work on.

FGW will most definately NOT be operating any 180's.

Not yet they don't.

Rumour has it that the Hull Trains stock will have their larger exams and component changes at Old Oak Common and 180102 is going next week for them to have a bit of a play with.

180102 is going to Old Oak Common next week

That sounds good. Although they don't plug all the way flush to the bodyside they are still plug nonetheless and have the maintenance issues associated with it.

More like 15mph, i'm sitting on one now. :lol: Personally, i would call that 'system' you refer to 'plugging'. The door has movement in 2 seperate planes.

But they do have a 'plugging' action to create a better seal.

Are the 395 Javelins not plug doors?

Pocket Plug doors are a real pig to maintain/setup compared to pocket doors. Time which could be spent in other areas IMHO.

There is on an HST P/C. :wink:

Get over it. I badly worded my post, not a problem. Most people got the gist of what i was getting at.

All of the Mk 3 coaches. As Ralph said, the break glass windows were breaking if the coach went over and bodies fell out and got crushed. It was noted that a big factor in the few fatalities in the Grayrigg accident was the fact that there were no breakable windows and people stayed in the vehicle.

FGW have done a mod to remove all break glass windows following the Grayrigg derailment. It was deemed that they did more harm as people were falling out through the windows if a train went over.