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I had lunch in a Cafe Nero type place and the concourse felt a bit gloomy and dark in places - is this the Wellington Concourse?

Last thing I noticed last time I was in Leeds was how filthy the overall roof was looking with all the diesel fumes, looked like it needed a deep clean!

Well if it's to to with gradients they have no problem going over Miles Platting, and as for body width it doesn't seem to stop them navigating the tight platforms and curves into somewhere like Carnforth on the odd Leeds diagram, unless the issue is with a tunnel or a station with restricted...

It must be gaining enough patronage for them to say that even if some off-peak services have been lighly loaded, yet travel at other times and it can attract a good crowd. Holiday periods it should be even busier. I can only wonder as time goes on the prospect of a non-stop service to Manchester...

I think they need to market it better aswell, I haven't seen many posters around stations shouting from the rooftops about the new route. Imagine the confusion when the Ordsall Chord opens and lots more is diverted over Miles Platting. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Clitheroe...

Well it seems even the new TPE Scottish electrics are off to a very mixed start to say the least!

I don't know they seem to cope with Miles Platting and thats quite a climb! Maybe it's more the tunnel clearance issue that stops them?

Won't they be starting a shuttle between Chorley and Manchester or is Chorley station closed aswell? It all sounds very dicey if you're planning a journey during this time. I notice the Windermere & Barrow services are all terminating at Preston and you would have thought they'd run extra...

Yes, if it's pre-electrification they'll have use doubled up Voyagers unless they can stable a 57 at Bolton and 'drag' a Pendolino as far as Oxford Road? I reckon they'd probably go for the Voyager option (if it happens).

Yes some of the wooden sleeper track at Bolton probably goes back to the 70's, there's even some ancient bullhead track on the connecting spur from the Blackburn line to the main Manchester-bound platform, and can swear even part of the main line on the 'curve' as you come in is too. I would...

Yes I agree Vic does look at bit of a building site at the moment, I'm sure the end result will be worth the wait, it better had be! :-)

Yep, even TPE/Blackpool services are back Geeves, who would have thought that back in 1989? :-) Even used one myself today from Lime St - Vic. Some services Vic did hang onto beyond the Windsor Link opening, such as Barrow & North Wales services which went to the Airport when it opened in 1994.

I got the 14.12 from Liverpool to Victoria and it was alot busier from that end but I was still able to get a seat. The downside was it was 10 minutes late leaving Liverpool so faced constant signal checks beyond Huyton. In all its nice having a non-stop service to Manchester. I'm certainly not...

Electrification masts up at Deal St getting close to Manchester Victoria! :D

Yes, its a shame some York - Blackpool 158 workings didn't go via Huddersfield but operated as a semi-fast and a far more suitable unit than enduring it in a 142 or 150, it would also feel like a genuine Trans-Pennine service instead of an all-stations endurance test! :lol: Saying that the...

Yes you have a point, at least at Preston you have the option to board other services to, say, Lancaster if things went pear shaped at Wigan!

I think Blackpool - Huddersfield would have had far more value with a return working instead of Wigan Wallgate..

I imagine the services from Blackpool - Huddersfield & Huddersfield - Wigan are still the motley collection of 142's, 150s and the odd 156.. Interesting to note a new 15,xx Southport - Leeds via Huddersfield in the new timetable, I'm sure this originally terminated at Huddersfield if my memory...

Running as it should be today. I must get to Liverpool and give it a try at some point :-)

Yes Northern have put up posters, but TPEs are more noticable with big bold text and a bit more colourful.