Doubt it, the rails seem to have fully deformed enough to break gauging not long after the first car of the rear unit passed over the point of fault.
BBC report is saying there are two serious injuries.
Oh good lord. How sad.
Not really sure that rough rides are within the BTPs remit?
They’d be inundated if so.
No fatalities, but several injuries, two reported as serious.
I hope they make a speedy recovery.
The hq of both Sussex Police and East Sussex Fire and Rescue are less than a mile away as the crow flies on the other side of the River Ouse in Malling, Lewes. You can probably see the derailment from the upper floors of their offices.
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Having had three derailments in my railway career, albeit they were in a yard so low speed (5mph), if the driving coach derails (twice), you certainly feel itgets somewhat bumpy.
We don't know that yet. The Croydon tram crash killed several people who fell out of windows and underneath the toppling tram. It looked very benign at first viewing.
It's been confirmed there's no fatalities at the scene. Two serious injuries so far.
We still don't know the nature of the injuries. Given the primary risk in this crash is a passenger ejection from a broken window - which does not always result in a fatality - I don't think we should jump to any conclusions about the stock yet. People saying it's "held up well"...in what context? We don't know the speed of the incident. The carriages being structurally intact is entirely expected in a rollover, the major risk is with the side of the train that cannot be seen.
Thats good - that there are no deaths so far... Not that they are injured of course. As for the carriages, they seem to have held up so far exceptionally well though the proof will be when they get them upright again
Bedford involved a derailment though it was not the cause of the fatality. Stonehaven then? Or do you mean a simple rollover incident?
From some pictures I have seen (which I will not be posting here), it does seem to have held up decently well and the interiors are intact. I'm surprised there weren't more injuries as anything in the luggage racks would've well and truly landed on passengers on the opposite side of the carriages which I expect could've/would've caused a lot of injury. It doesn't appear that the train was heavily loaded but I do not know the average loadings on these trains.
Rollover - I did think Stonehaven but then thought maybe another I had forgot about
I travelled the route yesterday morning (down direction) and back in the afternoon (up direction). Didn't notice anything untoward.
No, but they have been described as 'serious' at worst and not 'life threatening' or 'life changing', so this should be seen as relatively positive.
Grayrigg was another. This was more a classic derailment down an embankment.
Defending my earlier post, perhaps, but I've been a commuter on that line for more than 20 years and there was always a definite jolt on the down line around where the derailment occurred. Maybe the driver wouldn't feel it, but the passengers did. It was bad enough that you wouldn't stand up until you'd gone over it.
No, of course, according to the other posts that's exactly what happened.
Do you know if it's possible if there is/was a TSR/ESR in operation? I can see no services have called at Cooksbridge OT today (with services generally picking up 4+ mins in this area), so it's possible it might've/should've been going even slower?
