Direct Rail Services Ltd Passenger Trains Test Runs (28th- 30th December 2011)

[Jdrowlands]

28th- 30th December 2011.

Test runs for the DRS commuter service to Sellafield. Should be one or more 37s/ 47s with coaches - max speed 95 mph

5Z21 09:46 Carlisle Kingmoor to Barrow-in-Furness
09:46 Carlisle Kingmoor
09:50 Caldew Junction
09:53 09:55 Carlisle
09:59 Currock Junction
10:04 10:06 Dalston
10:16 10:18 Wigton
10:29 10:31 Aspatria
10:48 10:50 Maryport
10:57 10:59 Flimby
11:06 11:08 Workington
11:12 11:14 Harrington
11:18 Parton North Junction
11:24 11:26 Parton
11:34 11:36 Whitehaven
11:38 11:40 Corkickle
11:45 11:47 St. Bees
11:58 12:00 Sellafield
12:05 Drigg
12:08 12:10 Ravenglass For Eskdale
12:16 Bootle
12:26 12:28 Millom
12:34 Foxfield
12:42 12:44 Askam
12:47 Park South
12:58 Barrow-in-Furness

5Z22 13:06 Barrow-in-Furness to Barrow CS
13:06 Barrow-in-Furness
13:11 Barrow CS

5Z23 15:35 Barrow CS to Barrow-in-Furness
15:35 Barrow CS
15:40 Barrow-in-Furness

5Z24 15:50 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle Kingmoor
15:50 Barrow-in-Furness
15:57 Park South
16:00 Askam
16:08 Foxfield
16:15 Millom
16:24 Bootle
16:31 Drigg
16:37 16:39 Sellafield
16:51 16:53 St. Bees
16:57 16:59 Corkickle
17:01 17:03 Whitehaven
17:07 17:09 Parton
17:16 Parton North Junction
17:19 17:21 Harrington
17:26 17:28 Workington
17:33 17:35 Flimby
17:38 17:40 Maryport
17:50 17:52 Aspatria
18:03 18:05 Wigton
18:13 18:15 Dalston
18:23 Currock Junction
18:26 18:28 Carlisle
18:31 Caldew Junction
18:35 Carlisle Kingmoor


Jacob.

 

[anthony263]

I look forward to seing this.

If all goes well it will be a useful service esecially if it helps with overcrowding on that and I think that the enthusiasts will be pleased

 

[12CSVT]

the enthusiasts will be pleased

Only if they happen to work for BNFL. Unfortunately it isn't intended for the general public.

The photters will be happy though.

 

[Blindtraveler]

I look forward to seing this.

If all goes well it will be a useful service esecially if it helps with overcrowding on that and I think that the enthusiasts will be pleased

agreed!
Is this just a test run empty for the timings or wil it be in public service?

 

[anthony263]

Only if they happen to work for BNFL. Unfortunately it isn't intended for the general public.

The photters will be happy though.

I am sure I read on WNXX that the service would be available to the general public now.

 

[Blindtraveler]

I am sure I read on WNXX that the service would be available to the general public now.

if we could have sum clarification on that it would be great, would love to bash it!

 

[anthony263]

I am sure I read on WNXX that the service would be available to the general public now.

According to WNXX there is supposed to be a 6 week trial starting from 9th January:

0610 d. Carlisle
0750 a. Sellafield
continues onto Barrow. (timings unknown, but following the 0748 ex-Sellafield unit)

1645 d. Sellafield
1830 a. Carlisle


There will be a special offer for sellafield workers costing £100 for the duration of the trial which will only be valid on the DRS train and there is supposed to be Northern conducter also on the train selling tickets so it does look like it will be able to be used by the general public which seems to be what most on WNXX think.
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I will keep an eye on WNXX over the next few days to see if there are any more updates but what I have stated in my previous post is all the information I have been able to find.

 

[wbbminerals]

Can't imagine having bashers on will be a problem - if they're window hanging they don't even need a seat.

 

[37372]

Thought I heard somewhere that this will run in the path of an existing service at some point along the line? I'd have thought if that was the case then the general public would be able to use it too.

 

[I T S]

anyone any idea of the price for a return ticket on this trip if it pulls of and runs passenger in 2012?

 

[Poolie]

Is there anywhere in our blessed land where we cannot join a train that is timetabled.....despite the price!!!!!

 

[12CSVT]

Is there anywhere in our blessed land where we cannot join a train that is timetabled.....despite the price!!!!!

I don't think you would be allowed on a Eurostar if it is already fully booked (or a Scotrail sleeper come to think of it - unless they tried to fit three in a sleeper compartment)

 

[Jdrowlands]

Keep in mind that this is more likely to be 47s than 37s. If 37s are used then they require either 37409 or 37423 (at least until they overhaul more 37/4s) as those are the only ones which have train supply fitted.

 

[anthony263]

Keep in mind that this is more likely to be 47s than 37s. If 37s are used then they require either 37409 or 37423 (at least until they overhaul more 37/4s) as those are the only ones which have train supply fitted.

I heard it was to be a 37 working this service

 

[Chester025]

anyone any idea of the price for a return ticket on this trip if it pulls of and runs passenger in 2012?

The same as a normal return ticket along the line.

I heard it was to be a 37 working this service

Booked for a 37/4.

 

[12CSVT]

Keep in mind that this is more likely to be 47s than 37s. If 37s are used then they require either 37409 or 37423 (at least until they overhaul more 37/4s) as those are the only ones which have train supply fitted.

As long as one loco is ETS fitted they could have anything on the other end (hence the use of 57s on the Workington floodex two years ago)

 

[Chester025]

As long as one loco is ETS fitted they could have anything on the other end (hence the use of 57s on the Workington floodex two years ago)

Apparently it is not going to be top and tailed, in fact there is even talk of them fiddling with the DBSO they've got...

 

[Boothby97]

Apparently it is not going to be top and tailed, in fact there is even talk of them fiddling with the DBSO they've got...

What DBSO does DRS own, because Network Rail own 5, Vintage Trains own 1 and the rest are owned by BARS. Could I also just ask what coaches they are using (numbers of them maybe) and what livery they carry.
Thanks, Sam

 

[matt]

What DBSO does DRS own, because Network Rail own 5, Vintage Trains own 1 and the rest are owned by BARS. Could I also just ask what coaches they are using (numbers of them maybe) and what livery they carry.
Thanks, Sam

What DBSO do Vintage Trains own? Riveria also own (or did) a DBSO.

 

[tnxrail]

I think the one he means is at tyseley Locomotive works don't no the owner its in Anglia Railways turquoise livery, picture on wikipedia page from 2003 may be it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_Brake_Standard_Open

 

[Chester025]

DRS have bought, and have brought these MK2s up to Kingmoor:

http://philmetcalfe.zenfolio.com/p166904104/h302e9ab7#h302e9ab7

I must apologise though as I had it in my mind that the BSO shown in the picture was a DBSO! Still one could be sourced if required.

 

[anthony263]

DRS have bought, and have brought these MK2s up to Kingmoor:

http://philmetcalfe.zenfolio.com/p166904104/h302e9ab7#h302e9ab7

I must apologise though as I had it in my mind that the BSO shown in the picture was a DBSO! Still one could be sourced if required.

I hope those were not the same coaches that were used by FGW on the Cardiff - Taunton loco hauled services? as they were terrible still it will be nice to have more loco hauled trains on the uk rail network.

 

[Chester025]

I hope those were not the same coaches that were used by FGW on the Cardiff - Taunton loco hauled services? as they were terrible still it will be nice to have more loco hauled trains on the uk rail network.

They are the same coaches.

 

[fgwrich]

I hope those were not the same coaches that were used by FGW on the Cardiff - Taunton loco hauled services? as they were terrible still it will be nice to have more loco hauled trains on the uk rail network.

They are the same coaches.

...Nice...They were ropey even for Rivera standards! How there still on the Mainline i don't know, as the brakes seemed pretty shot, air con was dead in two of the Mk2s, CDL didnt seem in the greatest of moods...And as for the interior, in one of the Mk2s, the floor seemed to sink in a fair few places - almost as if the carpet is holding the things together ...But then again, This is Rivera Trains were talking about :roll:

(and to be slightly fair to them, the Anglia Mk2s were always the worst too!)

Whilst we're talking about the Mk2s, the BSO is abit of a odd one in the fleet - Anglia Railways of course never had Mk2 BSOs, Only that of the Mk2 DBSOs - It was in fact a repaint job by Rivera Trains to fit into the 'The Anglian' Mk2 rake, having sold their DBSO on to Translink / NI Railways (Who themselves, have never actually used it in service!)

There's another picture of the Mk2 on Taunton Trains website:
http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/LOCOHAULED.htm

 

[I T S]

2 1/2 years later, 8918 has still not moved from York Road.

 

[Drimnagh Road]

Oh Christ. Not the ex Taunton set. Those ex Anglia mk2s really were grade A rancid!

I'm not sure why Riviera never supplied the better ex Virgin ones for that contract.

 

[anthony263]

Oh Christ. Not the ex Taunton set. Those ex Anglia mk2s really were grade A rancid!

I'm not sure why Riviera never supplied the better ex Virgin ones for that contract.

I hated those anglia MK2 carriages I much prefered either the
Cargo D set or those Intercity liveried rake.

 

[Jdrowlands]

Ta Mike

37423 is allocated for the Sellafield trial today

 

[theblackwatch]

Whilst we're talking about the Mk2s, the BSO is abit of a odd one in the fleet - Anglia Railways of course never had Mk2 BSOs, Only that of the Mk2 DBSOs - It was in fact a repaint job by Rivera Trains to fit into the 'The Anglian' Mk2 rake, having sold their DBSO on to Translink / NI Railways (Who themselves, have never actually used it in service!)

The Riviera DBSO (9713) was handed back to Eversholt (it was only leased) and is now heading for the Mid Norfolk Railway. The NIR DBSO was 9712.

To answer another query, the Birmingham Railway Museum/Vintage Trains owned DBSO at Tyseley is 9711.

 

[Blindtraveler]

one would hope DRS have given them a quick seeing too before starting opperations?