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Peter Sarf said:
I could not find this BUT it led me to happen upon these on Wednesday 26/08/2026. Not the same headcode or times but just as interesting ?.

0N93 13:32 Crewe South Yard to Rugby.
0H94 15:28 Rugby to Crewe Gresty Bridge (DRS)



I wonder if these runs (and yours) are used for keeping locos alive and rotated between South Yard and Gresty ?.
If only the runs were via Wembley !.

Afterthought - training ?.
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0Z93 now showing on RTT:
 
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Roger B said:
93004 and 93010 visible from the road entrance to Gresty Road depot today.
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I have in the past been through the field to the North West of Gresty Bridge depot. It is a bit Wasteland like. Can see the things you cannot see from the road entrance there.

Go down Davenport Avenue and left into Hinton Road. You end up at the edge of a narrow park with a stream in it (Gresty Brook). Follow that towards the railway but just before going under the railway climb up a bank into the field/wastelend alongside the railway line.

UPDATE 02/09/2026
That wasteland is now very overgrown with brambles - forget it.
 
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Peter Sarf said:
I have in the past been through the field to the North West of Gresty Bridge depot. It is a bit Wasteland like. Can see the things you cannot see from the road entrance there.

Go down Davenport Avenue and left into Hinton Road. You end up at the edge of a narrow park with a stream in it (Gresty Brook). Follow that towards the railway but just before going under the railway climb up a bank into the field/wastelend alongside the railway line.
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Thanks Peter. Love it when someone offers useful info - especially spontaneously. I'll definitely give it a go next time I'm there. Cheers
 
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Tuesday morning update

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93003 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N
93008 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N
93009 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBMD F N
93010 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N

Afternoon update shows correct 93s on 0Z93 after an input error this morning

93002 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N
93003 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N

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Wednesday afternoon update

93007 GROG CREWE SYD 420N931N26 F RUGBY N
93008 GROG CREWE SYD 420N931N26 F RUGBY N

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47286Dan said:
Tuesday morning update

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93003 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N
93008 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N
93009 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBMD F N
93010 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N

Afternoon update shows correct 93s on 0Z93 after an input error this morning

93002 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N
93003 GROG CREWE SYD 420Z932M25 F GRESTYBGE N

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Wednesday afternoon update

93007 GROG CREWE SYD 420N931N26 F RUGBY N
93008 GROG CREWE SYD 420N931N26 F RUGBY N

Dan
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This looks to me like there should be eight 93s at Gresty. (only 93005 & 93006 at South Yard) ?.

There are no movements to-from South Yard on RTT for Thursday or Friday so I suspect there will still be eight at Gresty all Bank Holiday weekend ?.
Am I missing something (before I trek to Crewe on Monday) ?.

After thought
There is plenty of scope for light locos Gresty to/from Daventry though (these normally run Mon - Sun anyway).
But will they suddenly be 93s ?.

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This Gresty to Stafford to Gresty trip today (Friday 28/08/2026) looks unusual. I wonder if it is related to 93s ?.

 
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Peter Sarf said:
This Gresty to Stafford to Gresty trip today (Friday 28/08/2026) looks unusual. I wonder if it is related to 93s ?.
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Shown as 66426 in TOPS - appears to be a test run after attention on the depot.

Peter Sarf said:
This looks to me like there should be eight 93s at Gresty. (only 93005 & 93006 at South Yard) ?.

There are no movements to-from South Yard on RTT for Thursday or Friday so I suspect there will still be eight at Gresty all Bank Holiday weekend ?.
Am I missing something (before I trek to Crewe on Monday) ?.
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The only thing I'm not sure about is whether is whether the TOPS locations are accurate locally, or if locos are sometimes moved between South Yard and the depot at Gresty without being recorded in TOPS (e.g. to the depot for exams or to South Yard to make room on the depot for other locos).

Current TOPS locations (still showing 8 locos at Gresty):

93001 GRESTYBGE
93002 GRESTYBGE
93003 GRESTYBGE
93004 GRESTYBGE
93005 CREWE SYD
93006 CREWE SYD
93007 GRESTYBGE
93008 GRESTYBGE
93009 GRESTYBMD
93010 GRESTYBGE
 
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Adrian Barr said:
Shown as 66426 in TOPS - appears to be a test run after attention on the depot.
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Thanks
Adrian Barr said:
The only thing I'm not sure about is whether is whether the TOPS locations are accurate locally, or if locos are sometimes moved between South Yard and the depot at Gresty without being recorded in TOPS (e.g. to the depot for exams or to South Yard to make room on the depot for other locos).
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That is true. Because four of them recently moved to Gresty (Tuesday and Wednesday via Rugby) I am inclined to believe they have not had much chance to wander off. But Gresty must be getting quite full if all eight 93 are there.

South yard is impossible to id things in but a fly past on the train to/from Nantwich would possibly indicate if more than two 93s are there - depending on what else is cluttering the distant view.
Adrian Barr said:
Current TOPS locations (still showing 8 locos at Gresty):

93001 GRESTYBGE
93002 GRESTYBGE
93003 GRESTYBGE
93004 GRESTYBGE
93005 CREWE SYD
93006 CREWE SYD
93007 GRESTYBGE
93008 GRESTYBGE
93009 GRESTYBMD
93010 GRESTYBGE
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Thanks. I am tempted to trek to Crewe on Monday.
 
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Peter Sarf said:
Thanks

That is true. Because four of them recently moved to Gresty (Tuesday and Wednesday via Rugby) I am inclined to believe they have not had much chance to wander off. But Gresty must be getting quite full if all eight 93 are there.

South yard is impossible to id things in but a fly past on the train to/from Nantwich would possibly indicate if more than two 93s are there - depending on what else is cluttering the distant view.

Thanks. I am tempted to trek to Crewe on Monday.
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I'm going to head there on Sunday morning - no doubt helped by your practical advice above :smile:!
 
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Saturday morning update

Showing 4 at South Yard this morning

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93003 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93008 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93009 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93010 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N

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I'm going to head there on Sunday morning - no doubt helped by your practical advice above :smile:!
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I will be going to Crewe for a long (10 hour) day on Monday (bank holiday btw).

If I have to I will do a fly past of Gresty depot on the train to/from Nantwich).
Also remember to walk round the back into the waste land (if it is still accessible)

Walking directions to the rear of Gresty depot :-
"I have in the past been through the field to the North West of Gresty Bridge depot. It is a bit Wasteland like. Can see the things you cannot see from the road entrance there.

Go down Davenport Avenue and left into Hinton Road. You end up at the edge of a narrow park with a stream in it (Gresty Brook). Follow that towards the railway but just before going under the railway climb up a bank into the field/wastelend alongside the railway line."
 
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Bank Holiday update

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93003 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93008 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93009 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93010 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N

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93s to Hinksey this morning

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93003 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93008 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93009 GROG CREWE SYD 420H691F02 F HINKSEYYD N
93010 GROG CREWE SYD 420H691F02 F HINKSEYYD N

Dan
 
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47286Dan said:
Bank Holiday update

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93003 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93008 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93009 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93010 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N

Dan

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93s to Hinksey this morning

93001 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93002 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93003 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93008 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93009 GROG CREWE SYD 420H691F02 F HINKSEYYD N
93010 GROG CREWE SYD 420H691F02 F HINKSEYYD N

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Thanks for the updata Dan. Any ideas what is next after their arrival at Hinksey ?.
 
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93005 and 93006 had an unexpected intermodal outing today. The were originally going to work 0Z93 Crewe South Yard - Rugby - Gresty Bridge, but were borrowed to move some container wagons from Northampton (where 4L56 has been on the centre road since yesterday evening, with one of the wagons requiring a wheelskate). 93005 + 93006 ran light as 1Z99 to Northampton, then took the back half of the train from Northampton to Rugby as 4Z56, where they left it in one of the up loops before returning light engine to Crewe.

The 4Z56 working is captured at Northampton:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/northamptontoffeeman/55515796269/ (Photo: Nigel Gould)
 
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Been quiet for a week but today (Tuesday 15/09/2026) 93009 & 93010 did Crewe - Preston - Crewe.
47286Dan said:
That would’ve been 93009 & 93010 working to Preston

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I wonder if any others have moved between Crewe South Yard and Crewe Gresty ?.
 
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No activity on TOPS this month apart from the 0B30 / 0B42 outing to Preston and back for 93009/93010 mentioned above (and the Northampton working for 93005/93006 in the post above that):

Current TOPS locations:

LOCO LAST LOCN
93001 GRESTYBGE
93002 GRESTYBGE
93003 GRESTYBGE
93004 GRESTYBGE
93005 CREWE SYD
93006 CREWE SYD
93007 GRESTYBGE
93008 GRESTYBGE
93009 CREWE SYD
93010 CREWE SYD
 
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Adrian Barr said:
No activity on TOPS this month apart from the 0B30 / 0B42 outing to Preston and back for 93009/93010 mentioned above (and the Northampton working for 93005/93006 in the post above that):

Current TOPS locations:

LOCO LAST LOCN
93001 GRESTYBGE
93002 GRESTYBGE
93003 GRESTYBGE
93004 GRESTYBGE
93005 CREWE SYD
93006 CREWE SYD
93007 GRESTYBGE
93008 GRESTYBGE
93009 CREWE SYD
93010 CREWE SYD
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Thanks for the update, as you say, confirms they are still where they were despite a couple of outings !.
 
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Bit late but I had a look at the entrance to Gresty Lane on Monday morning and six 93s present - 01, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07. The missing four were presumably in the South Yard.
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Thanks. Seems six 93s on Gresty is the norm.

I was warned that sometimes 93s move between Crewe Gresty and Crewe South Yard but their move does not get reported on systems. So an actual sighting is always potentially interesting. I can only assume that 93005 & 93006 might have got to Gresty after their trip out to Northampton on 08/09/2026. How/when 93003 & 93008 escaped Gresty I cannot guess. Of course there is also a chance things change over a few days (especially if I am relying on something !).
 
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This appears to have slipped under the radar,93001 has worked 5J65 Tyseley - Soho with unit 730218? prior to working 0M57 Soho - Derby RTC
 
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GSR123 said:
Bit late but I had a look at the entrance to Gresty Lane on Monday morning and six 93s present - 01, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07. The missing four were presumably in the South Yard.
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Interesting to see how the actual locations at Crewe compare to TOPS, with 93003/93008 presumably having moved to the south yard at some point to be replaced by 93005/93006

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I can only assume that 93005 & 93006 might have got to Gresty after their trip out to Northampton on 08/09/2026.
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That would make sense. On that day, 93005/93006 were originally consisted on an 0Z93 move which would have taken them from Crewe South Yard to Gresty Bridge via Rugby. When they were borrowed to move the intermodal wagons from Northampton to Rugby, the 1Z99 and 4Z56 movements were treated as "clearance of the line" which meant no schedules were created (to speed up the rescue of failed trains, normally a rescue loco moves as 1Z99 without requiring a schedule). I'm not sure what headcode they were given for the movement from Rugby back to Crewe (likely 0Z93) but it doesn't look like this ran using a schedule either. It would make sense that they ended up at Gresty as originally intended, but with no schedules consisted this wasn't recorded in TOPS.
 
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Adrian Barr said:
Interesting to see how the actual locations at Crewe compare to TOPS, with 93003/93008 presumably having moved to the south yard at some point to be replaced by 93005/93006



That would make sense. On that day, 93005/93006 were originally consisted on an 0Z93 move which would have taken them from Crewe South Yard to Gresty Bridge via Rugby. When they were borrowed to move the intermodal wagons from Northampton to Rugby, the 1Z99 and 4Z56 movements were treated as "clearance of the line" which meant no schedules were created (to speed up the rescue of failed trains, normally a rescue loco moves as 1Z99 without requiring a schedule). I'm not sure what headcode they were given for the movement from Rugby back to Crewe (likely 0Z93) but it doesn't look like this ran using a schedule either. It would make sense that they ended up at Gresty as originally intended, but with no schedules consisted this wasn't recorded in TOPS.
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Thanks for the insight. It makes sense that something urgent is often not going to be planned of course. Then it is a matter of if something is entered on the systems after the event - not totally necessary. I also remember seeing the two 93s had a path to Rugby and then I lost track !.

My hunch is that we can assume that there are never more than six 93s at Gresty, does that seem plausible ?.
 
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Thursday morning update

93001 out today

93001 GROG DERBY RTC 570H651617 F SOHO LMD N
93002 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93003 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93004 GROG CREWE SYD GRESTYBGE N
93005 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93006 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93007 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93008 GROG GRESTYBGE GRESTYBGE F N
93009 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N
93010 GROG CREWE SYD CREWE SYD F N

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