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Ah not too bad37409.
Ah not too bad37409.
37521 doesn't look good in black imo.57311 + 37521 outside Eastleigh Works today.
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Been sitting here for an hour. 37409 shut down, low oil pressure. The pair of 20s which were sent from Crewe to Oxenholme to rescue 70000 are now in the process of rescuing us instead!Today's tour is turning into a new disaster, 37409 has shut down near Tebay!
I suppose the odd person might appreciate the unadvertised haulage by 20s!Been sitting here for an hour. 37409 shut down, low oil pressure. The pair of 20s which were sent from Crewe to Oxenholme to rescue 70000 are now in the process of rescuing us instead!
Holy jaysus, not a good dayToday's tour is turning into a new disaster, 37409 has shut down near Tebay!
I would!I suppose the odd person might appreciate the unadvertised haulage by 20s!![]()
Maybe no more unassisted steam tours…Holy jaysus, not a good day
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I would!
Not a good day for other users of the WCML - and presumably for LSL who will be having to compensate their respective TOCs quite apart from their own additional costs of turning out rescue traction.Holy jaysus, not a good day
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I would!
For the foreseeable future anywayMaybe no more unassisted steam tours…
I can imagine so, has the tour got to CreweNot a good day for other users of the WCML - and presumably for LSL who will be having to compensate their respective TOCs quite apart from their own additional costs of turning out rescue traction.
How do you reach that conclusion? The train crew on 70000 realised there was an issue, and requested the train be diverted into Oxenholme loop for examination. This prompt and sensible action did not cause any delays to other operators.Maybe no more unassisted steam tours…
They could do what vintage trains do and have a shadow dieselHow do you reach that conclusion? The train crew on 70000 realised there was an issue, and requested the train be diverted into Oxenholme loop for examination. This prompt and sensible action did not cause any delays to other operators.
Compare that with the southbound journey when 37409 failed and blocked the Up WCML at Tebay, causing delays up to 75 minutes to various southbound services. It was the unassisted diesel which stuffed up the service, not the steam loco.
Might not have helped has it been 37409!They could do what vintage trains do and have a shadow diesel
If they knew 37409 was gonna conk out like it did and where it did (which of course they didn't, but there's always such a risk with vintage diesel traction, even the generally robust 37s), maybe they should've sent the two 20s out to start with instead or had them (or another diesel, that of course hinges on if any were available) go with 409 and top-n-tail the train with it just in case of something like this happening. But all this is said with the benefit of hindsight of course and ignores the practical barriers weighing against such a plan, not least the extra fueling, crewing & pathing costs.How do you reach that conclusion? The train crew on 70000 realised there was an issue, and requested the train be diverted into Oxenholme loop for examination. This prompt and sensible action did not cause any delays to other operators.
Compare that with the southbound journey when 37409 failed and blocked the Up WCML at Tebay, causing delays up to 75 minutes to various southbound services. It was the unassisted diesel which stuffed up the service, not the steam loco.
Anybody have any idea why the ran the pacer to Carlisle and back empty142003 is heading from Upperby back to Crewe.
I will go and see later through Bamber Bridge; I can't remember when they last ran here. It looked nice going over Ribblehead earlier.
Presumably for route knowledge or driver training reasons.Anybody have any idea why the ran the pacer to Carlisle and back empty
Is being used for statesman luxury trains ( I wish)Anybody have any idea why the ran the pacer to Carlisle and back empty
LSL did do a pacer railtour a couple of years back, it was very reasonably priced, but I flagged it as a full pacer isn’t my cup of tea. They were tolerable when lightly loaded.Oh it made it then. Would anyone survive if a pacer carried passengers for a whole day. Only joking !
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Or crew which they evidently have!
It wasn't too bad even with it being well loaded. Well I enjoyed it anywayLSL did do a pacer railtour a couple of years back, it was very reasonably priced, but I flagged it as a full pacer isn’t my cup of tea. They were tolerable when lightly loaded.
You could run it on Sundays every 3rd hour between Sheffield and Manchester to use the paths Northern have neither crews nor trains to fill!It wasn't too bad even with it being well loaded. Well I enjoyed it anyway
They have another pacer at Eastleigh (I think it is still there anyway) so my hope is we can have a tour with a double pacer, maybe around the North West. It'll be more popular than a peak to Scarborough, that's for sure![]()
Or anywhere around the North West!You could run it on Sundays every 3rd hour between Sheffield and Manchester to use the paths Northern have neither crews nor trains to fill!
It’s an LSL facilityIn a couple of videos recently at Upperby I’ve seen a steel structure being constructed next to the sidings LSL use. Does anybody know if this has anything to do with LSL or is it just something else close by?
Filmed at Prestatyn, North Wales
27/09/23 - Class 142 Pacer - 142003 - St Tudno Wanderer Railtour - Llandudno to Wilmslow
That’s exciting, great to know they are still investing and expanding. (Purely for selfish reasons, hope they acquire a depot in East Anglia… but I doubt it)It’s an LSL facility
The Jacobite had crossed my mind, on hire to West Coast RailwaysIs being used for statesman luxury trains ( I wish)
It did, picked it up on the tour that was being filmed on - a fitter had to come out and check it before they left Llandudno but it was deemed fit to proceedHas that got a fairly hefty wheel flat on the rear axle?