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CW2

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Today's tour is turning into a new disaster, 37409 has shut down near Tebay!
Been sitting here for an hour. 37409 shut down, low oil pressure. The pair of 20s which were sent from Crewe to Oxenholme to rescue 70000 are now in the process of rescuing us instead!
 

hexagon789

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Been sitting here for an hour. 37409 shut down, low oil pressure. The pair of 20s which were sent from Crewe to Oxenholme to rescue 70000 are now in the process of rescuing us instead!
I suppose the odd person might appreciate the unadvertised haulage by 20s! :lol:
 

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Holy jaysus, not a good day

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I would!
Not a good day for other users of the WCML - and presumably for LSL who will be having to compensate their respective TOCs quite apart from their own additional costs of turning out rescue traction.
 

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Maybe no more unassisted steam tours…
For the foreseeable future anyway

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Not a good day for other users of the WCML - and presumably for LSL who will be having to compensate their respective TOCs quite apart from their own additional costs of turning out rescue traction.
I can imagine so, has the tour got to Crewe
 

CW2

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Maybe no more unassisted steam tours…
How do you reach that conclusion? The train crew on 70000 realised there was an issue, and requested the train be diverted into Oxenholme loop for examination. This prompt and sensible action did not cause any delays to other operators.

Compare that with the southbound journey when 37409 failed and blocked the Up WCML at Tebay, causing delays up to 75 minutes to various southbound services. It was the unassisted diesel which stuffed up the service, not the steam loco.
 

HertiageFan

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How do you reach that conclusion? The train crew on 70000 realised there was an issue, and requested the train be diverted into Oxenholme loop for examination. This prompt and sensible action did not cause any delays to other operators.

Compare that with the southbound journey when 37409 failed and blocked the Up WCML at Tebay, causing delays up to 75 minutes to various southbound services. It was the unassisted diesel which stuffed up the service, not the steam loco.
They could do what vintage trains do and have a shadow diesel
 

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How do you reach that conclusion? The train crew on 70000 realised there was an issue, and requested the train be diverted into Oxenholme loop for examination. This prompt and sensible action did not cause any delays to other operators.

Compare that with the southbound journey when 37409 failed and blocked the Up WCML at Tebay, causing delays up to 75 minutes to various southbound services. It was the unassisted diesel which stuffed up the service, not the steam loco.
If they knew 37409 was gonna conk out like it did and where it did (which of course they didn't, but there's always such a risk with vintage diesel traction, even the generally robust 37s), maybe they should've sent the two 20s out to start with instead or had them (or another diesel, that of course hinges on if any were available) go with 409 and top-n-tail the train with it just in case of something like this happening. But all this is said with the benefit of hindsight of course and ignores the practical barriers weighing against such a plan, not least the extra fueling, crewing & pathing costs.

We all could go back and forth over what could've and what should've been done for hours, but what's done is done. Main thing LSL is dealing with now is footing all the bills this escapade has caused.
 

Rhinojerry

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142003 is heading from Upperby back to Crewe.

I will go and see later through Bamber Bridge; I can't remember when they last ran here. It looked nice going over Ribblehead earlier.
 

Forty29

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Oh it made it then. Would anyone survive if a pacer carried passengers for a whole day. Only joking !

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Or crew which they evidently have!
 

Iskra

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Oh it made it then. Would anyone survive if a pacer carried passengers for a whole day. Only joking !

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Or crew which they evidently have!
LSL did do a pacer railtour a couple of years back, it was very reasonably priced, but I flagged it as a full pacer isn’t my cup of tea. They were tolerable when lightly loaded.
 

The_Train

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LSL did do a pacer railtour a couple of years back, it was very reasonably priced, but I flagged it as a full pacer isn’t my cup of tea. They were tolerable when lightly loaded.
It wasn't too bad even with it being well loaded. Well I enjoyed it anyway :D

They have another pacer at Eastleigh (I think it is still there anyway) so my hope is we can have a tour with a double pacer, maybe around the North West. It'll be more popular than a peak to Scarborough, that's for sure ;)
 

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It wasn't too bad even with it being well loaded. Well I enjoyed it anyway :D

They have another pacer at Eastleigh (I think it is still there anyway) so my hope is we can have a tour with a double pacer, maybe around the North West. It'll be more popular than a peak to Scarborough, that's for sure ;)
You could run it on Sundays every 3rd hour between Sheffield and Manchester to use the paths Northern have neither crews nor trains to fill!
 

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You could run it on Sundays every 3rd hour between Sheffield and Manchester to use the paths Northern have neither crews nor trains to fill!
Or anywhere around the North West!
Sunday Mystery Tour of the North West with its old stock using the unused paths!

If 142003 makes another appearance I aim to use it, I couldn't the only time before due to being in college.
 

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Filmed at Prestatyn, North Wales

27/09/23 - Class 142 Pacer - 142003 - St Tudno Wanderer Railtour - Llandudno to Wilmslow
 

Steam4Max

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In a couple of videos recently at Upperby I’ve seen a steel structure being constructed next to the sidings LSL use. Does anybody know if this has anything to do with LSL or is it just something else close by?
 

Iskra

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In a couple of videos recently at Upperby I’ve seen a steel structure being constructed next to the sidings LSL use. Does anybody know if this has anything to do with LSL or is it just something else close by?
It’s an LSL facility
 

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