TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc

[37052 xb mr]

It was 02/04/05/06/07 in service and 03 as spare.

06 was planned to swap so finishing in Crewe (which it now will anyway) to enable 67013 to come off and 67029 to go on.
Hopefully 07 does make it out but will depend if its repaired overnight.

67006 and 67007 are planned to swap as the rescue loco at Canton, 006 running light to Crewe and 007 heading to Canton.

Ok Thanks

 

[37052 xb mr]

Good morning
Please can anyone confirm what
1W11 & 1W13 are please
RTT showing no Id on W11 67016 set 5 ?
& a mix of 197016 & 67020 on W13 ?
Thanks

 

[MP393]

Good morning
Please can anyone confirm what
1W11 & 1W13 are please
RTT showing no Id on W11 67016 set 5 ?
& a mix of 197016 & 67020 on W13 ?
Thanks

Morning,
1W11 67016 HD05
1W13 197016

 

[JakeMurphy]

Morning,
1W11 67016 HD05
1W13 197016

That’s not good I’m meant to be on 1W96 later…

 

[Jamesrob637]

Black 67 on the 08:30 Manchester to Cardiff today, number unknown as passed it at speed.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Black 67 on the 08:30 Manchester to Cardiff today, number unknown as passed it at speed.

67016 with HD05.

 

[37052 xb mr]

Morning,
1W11 67016 HD05
1W13 197016

Cheers

 

[37052 xb mr]

Incident at Abergavenny !
1W55 Not showing as left Cardiff on RTT
1V33, 1V91 0Z07 all being held southbound

 

[MP393]

Incident at Abergavenny !
1W55 Not showing as left Cardiff on RTT
1V33, 1V91 0Z05 all being held southbound

1V33 will terminate Hereford and form 1W55 back north, 67015 HD02

 

[37052 xb mr]

1V33 will terminate Hereford and form 1W55 back north

Thanks

 

[JakeMurphy]

Incident at Abergavenny !
1W55 Not showing as left Cardiff on RTT
1V33, 1V91 0Z07 all being held southbound

197119 working 1W57, 1V46. And the waiting game begins for 1W96 to see what we get.

 

[sd0733]

197119 working 1W57, 1V46. And the waiting game begins for 1W96 to see what we get.

W96 is planned for HD07

 

[37052 xb mr]

W96 is planned for HD07

67013 set 6 off V91
& 67010 set 4 off V31
Are sill Cardiff end ?

 

[sd0733]

67013 set 6 off V91
& 67010 set 4 off V31
Are sill Cardiff end ?

67013+HD06 for 16:50 Manchester replacing 67015+HD02 which picks up 18:53 Manchester .

67010+HD04 requires underframe checks so is planned for 1W11 tomorrow as long as they're complete

67013 will come off 06 but no longer being replaced by 67029. That's now planned out with HD03 for another day prior to exam on the Crewe-Crewe Diagram with 06 going locoless

 

[37052 xb mr]

67013+HD06 for 16:50 Manchester replacing 67015+HD02 which picks up 18:53 Manchester .

67010+HD04 requires underframe checks so is planned for 1W11 tomorrow as long as they're complete

67013 will come off 06 but no longer being replaced by 67029. That's now planned out with HD03 for another day prior to exam on the Crewe-Crewe Diagram with 06 going locoless

Thanks
Anything wrong with set 6 ?
Or just spare set

 

[sd0733]

Thanks
Anything wrong with set 6 ?
Or just spare set

Nothing wrong, it's just needed to finish at Crewe to get the loco to DB for an exam.
Working anything earlier once it eventually arrived into Cardiff and was fuelled would have put it onto a Canton finish.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Today at Crewe depot (15/1/25):

67017 connected to HD01

67029 connected to HD03

 

[JakeMurphy]

1W96 not off the depot yet

 

[Jamesrob637]

18:30 Manchester to Cardiff is a unit tonight. Only been booked loco since the timetable change a month ago!

 

[Topological]

18:30 Manchester to Cardiff is a unit tonight. Only been booked loco since the timetable change a month ago!

Sounds like today is affected by an incident, so understandable that the diagrams are messed up.

Was already the 10th day of 10 working days without all 5 diagrams covered because of 1W13 this morning. I really wish that run would finish soon.

 

[37052 xb mr]

Sounds like today is affected by an incident, so understandable that the diagrams are messed up.

Was already the 10th day of 10 working days without all 5 diagrams covered because of 1W13 this morning. I really wish that run would finish soon.

There was 5 sets out on Tuesday

 

[37052 xb mr]

18:30 Manchester to Cardiff is a unit tonight. Only been booked loco since the timetable change a month ago!

Loco & set on that diagram 1V33
Was Turned at Hereford to form 1W55 so ended up on different diagram,
1W61 & 1V62 was a allocated a unit from just after dinner time.

 

[37052 xb mr]

Nothing wrong, it's just needed to finish at Crewe to get the loco to DB for an exam.
Working anything earlier once it eventually arrived into Cardiff and was fuelled would have put it onto a Canton finish.

Thanks

 

[Topological]

There was 5 sets out on Tuesday

Pretty sure there were swaps involving Shrewsbury. So all 5 diagrams were not completed by Mk4s.

Looks like 1W96 has bitten the dust
Now 197117 !

Swapping to a set at Shrewsbury

197117 from Shrewsbury

Though since two of those are your posts you may be able to clarify.

 

[37052 xb mr]

Pretty sure there were swaps involving Shrewsbury. So all 5 diagrams were not completed by Mk4s.







Though since two of those are your posts you may be able to clarify.

1W96 unit Cardiff - Shrewsbury
67 & set to Holyhead

1V62 67 & set to Shrewsbury
Unit to Cardiff

Every loco hauled service
Had a 67 & set at some point

 

[Topological]

1W96 unit Cardiff - Shrewsbury
67 & set to Holyhead

1V62 67 & set to Shrewsbury
Unit to Cardiff

Every loco hauled service
Had a 67 & set at some point

Thanks for the confirmation.

My prediction, which I hope is wrong, but so far is 10 out of 10 days, is based on covering the entirety of all 5 diagrams. Again if it is felt that a diagram is covered in the industry if part of it is covered then my apologies for the confusion.

 

[Harpo]

Thanks for the confirmation.

My prediction, which I hope is wrong, but so far is 10 out of 10 days, is based on covering the entirety of all 5 diagrams. Again if it is felt that a diagram is covered in the industry if part of it is covered then my apologies for the confusion.

From a traction reliability viewpoint, 5 sets available all day is 100%.

Fleet management wouldn’t be held accountable for non-TRS factors taking sets off their booked jobs.

But Mr Ford’s spanners might not be in play for the mk4s for some time.

 

[Topological]

From a traction reliability viewpoint, 5 sets available all day is 100%.

Fleet management wouldn’t be held accountable for non-TRS factors taking sets off their booked jobs.

But Mr Ford’s spanners might not be in play for the mk4s for some time.

My prediction was based on the feeling of the passengers who got turfed off a Mk4 to get onto a smaller one at Shrewsbury.

It is interesting to learn the different perspectives of railway people compared to what would be felt on the ground.

 

[Harpo]

My prediction was based on the feeling of the passengers who got turfed off a Mk4 to get onto a smaller one at Shrewsbury.

It is interesting to learn the different perspectives of railway people compared to what would be felt on the ground.

Its definitely a customer service ‘fail’ but not a fleet one.

Even in BR days the Western Control log had an HST appendix documenting short-forms (7v8), misforms, OEO, catering provision, number of set swaps needed, etc. etc..

 

[37052 xb mr]

1V42 showing a set
Forward from Crewe
67029 set 6 ?