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TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc

sd0733

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67015 has a fault with the windscreen wipers so has been sidelined at ATC so that diagram has been lost, at least to start with.
 
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37052 xb mr

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Still showing as HD02+67015. Issues getting the prep done in time for W55.

67016 + HD05 also being prepped for W57 swapping in at Crewe for 13:30.
67015 set 2 did work
The late 1V42

1W57 not left showing as cancelled
Set still in P6
67016 set 5, 1V46 started at Crewe
 
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Rhydgaled

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It'll be a couple of years until there's 8 sets available anyway whilst everything goes through its refurbishments etc.
The last I heard was heard was Holyhead stays as is, an extra set would add resilience, fill in the missing gaps such as the 0849 on a Saturday and potentially allow a couple more Swansea extensions.

Slightly faster to drive..it can also take up to 1 hour 30 mins from.cwmbran to neath on some trains if there is an extended dwell time at Cardiff or extra stops

55 minutes to Pontypool, though I guess it depends where you start in Neath. Wales do like 20mph limits, and of course there is a 50 on the M4 through Port Talbot and from 28 to 26 in Newport.

With M4 daytime traffic, I would estimate 1 hour 5, but I haven't tested that.

The train through Cardiff is painfully slow.
Thanks all for the replies; there's quite a way to go yet in terms of getting an attractive rail offer in many respects then.
 

sd0733

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0Z20 Crewe - Cardiff, 67020
Planned to replace 67013 on HD06 at Canton tomorrow before heading to Holyhead on w96.

An utter mess of a day with numerous swaps in and out today which has also meant HD07 is still at Crewe ETD as crews were used to prep others entering service, should now head back tomorrow and enter service on Friday replacing HD05 when it stops for exam (as long as that's even out after its cab heat issues)
Plan is HD02, HD04, HD05 and HD06 tomorrow, with the now regular subbing of the W11 diagram which seems likely to continue until mid-next week.
 

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Planned to replace 67013 on HD06 at Canton tomorrow before heading to Holyhead on w96.

An utter mess of a day with numerous swaps in and out today which has also meant HD07 is still at Crewe ETD as crews were used to prep others entering service, should now head back tomorrow and enter service on Friday replacing HD05 when it stops for exam (as long as that's even out after its cab heat issues)
Plan is HD02, HD04, HD05 and HD06 tomorrow, with the now regular subbing of the W11 diagram which seems likely to continue until mid-next week.
Its unfortunate that the 1630 Manchester-Swansea is now regularly a 197 after waiting so long for the morning service to switch to a MK4.
 

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Its unfortunate that the 1630 Manchester-Swansea is now regularly a 197 after waiting so long for the morning service to switch to a MK4.
It is, the 0435 is extremely busy heading into Manchester too. It's definitely an unfortunate side effect having the busiest services running short formed so regularly. 3 car 197 availability is even worse than the Mk4s so hardly any of those to cover either leading to mostly 2 cars and the odd pair of 153s.
 

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It is, the 0435 is extremely busy heading into Manchester too. It's definitely an unfortunate side effect having the busiest services running short formed so regularly. 3 car 197 availability is even worse than the Mk4s so hardly any of those to cover either leading to mostly 2 cars and the odd pair of 153s.
Indeed. I noticed a pair of 153s were allocated on the 0435/0830 this morning but a 197 was found for the 1630.

At the weekend can we expect all diagrams to be covered given there are 4 Saturday and 2 Sunday?
 

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Yes, quite aware of that, my point was while it’s been a unit just this week
is it’s not been running to Swansea
Yes that correct but it would still have been a unit even if it was running to Swansea is my point.
 

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Yes that correct but it would still have been a unit even if it was running to Swansea is my point.
Yes,
IIRC since the new timetable 1V50
Is yet to run to Swansea
On a Monday - Friday, & not planned next week.
 

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Indeed. I noticed a pair of 153s were allocated on the 0435/0830 this morning but a 197 was found for the 1630.

At the weekend can we expect all diagrams to be covered given there are 4 Saturday and 2 Sunday
Yes, and the Crewe start was cancelled both there and back with no spare unit at either Crewe or Canton, not even a 153.

No, there's still 5 required for the 4 Saturday diagrams as a set is in Holyhead
 

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I hadnt realised the 1630 Manchester-Swansea was now one of the most likely to be subbed. This was very rarely a unit before. Hope it wont happen too often!

Its unfortunate that the 1630 Manchester-Swansea is now regularly a 197 after waiting so long for the morning service to switch to a MK4.

Yes,
IIRC since the new timetable 1V50
Is yet to run to Swansea
On a Monday - Friday, & not planned next week.
This is a real shame, a very useful service for us in Swans!
 

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Today at Crewe depot (8/1/25):

67017 connected to HD01 (B exam)

67016 connected to HD05 after its heater issue

67015 connected to HD02 arrived before I left.
 

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HD02 + 67015
1V33 06:27 Manchester - Cardiff
1W61 14:53 Cardiff - Manchester
1V62 18:30 Manchester - Cardiff

HD04 + 67010
1V91 05:27 Holyhead - Cardiff
1W57 10:53 Cardiff - Manchester
1V46 14:30 Manchester - Cardiff
1W65 18:53 Cardiff - Manchester

HD06 + 67013 (reported to be swapping for 020 later)
1W13 05:43 Swansea - Manchester
1V39 10:30 Manchester - Cardiff
1W96 17:22 Cardiff - Holyhead

1V31 05:13 Crewe - Cardiff cancelled (was HD05)

1W11 04:33 Cardiff - Crewe
1V37 09:10 Crewe - Cardiff 153922/153303 (terminated Crewe due to points failure)
 

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