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Day 16: Double XPT sightings at Hornsby, Wendy’s Secret Garden and Ferry to Cockatoo Island

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On this nice day, I woke up quite late having been out with friends the night before, and the one before that, but when the sun is so hot and skies so clear, and when there’s a breathtaking city with countless things to see on my doorstep, using this as an excuse to stay in the apartment and slob about just isn’t on really, and so I decided to travel to Milsons Point to take some pictures from Wendy’s Secret Garden.

I did fancy an Intercity V Set haul, so I took one of these from Central to Hornsby (it called en-route at Strathfield and Epping) which gave me a roughly forty-five minute ride, where in came XPT 2013 “Starlight Express” bound for Brisbane via Casino. The first permitted station for alighting is Broadmeadow, near Newcastle and the junction for the Hunter Valley lines. I actually want to go to the Hunter Valley very soon as it’s a wonderful place to spot wild kangaroos, so on learning the XPT lets you alight there (I thought it was boarding only) I resolved to book onto one of those rather than using an Opal card on the far slower Intercity services (and far far less comfortable if you get a H Set)

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This was swifty followed by an incoming XPT from Casino bound for Central only, and this time I was a good boy and refrained from sneaking on at a set-down location. I did ask, because what’s the harm in that, but my request was politely turned down as the train manager told me the on-board staff are forced to ensure they have a booked record of everyone on board. Not a problem at all; I expected as such.

Instead, I waited for the stopping service to Central via Lindfield which would take me to Milsons Point. This is a different route to the mainline which I arrived at Hornsby on a via Strathfield express, so it would add greater variety and due to the circular nature of the line avoid the busy city centre - it would go onto serve it AFTER Milsons Point rather than before like via Strathfield services would. And to my delight, this Sydney Trains service was not operated by a Sydney Trains A Set Waratah or T Set Tangara like is usually booked but a pair of NSW Trainlink InterCity Oscars! This meant the luxury of high backed seats with leather headrests and footrests for my longish journey, so I was rather happy when boarding H3 and partner.

I’ve since learned that the H “OSCAR” Sets actually are booked on limited Sydney Trains services (weekdays only) on this T1/T9 route to position them to work the evening peak NSW IC services to Wyong via Chatswood, so I shall certainly attempt to catch these in future as while far less appropriate to long-distance services to their ancient V Set partners, the OSCAR being an Intercity train is much more comfortable than one of Sydney Trains’ stock (Sydney Trains run the commuter trains and NSW Trainlink the Regional and Intercity services). Here is my Oscar leaving Milsons Point, one of my favourite stations due to its clear proximity to the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

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Wendy’s Secret Garden is a very short walk from Milsons Point and its a really lovely hidden gem, or not-so hidden (it’s often referred to as Sydney’s worst kept secret) being an absolutely beautiful garden spanning two or three levels sheltered by trees. It used to be messy disused railway land, but “Wendy” began turning it into a stunning public garden as a personal project when she tragically lost both her husband and daughter not too far apart from each other. It’s an amazing garden, one which I was so busy videoing that I sadly didn’t take many still photos of, partly because of the lovely plants and flowers - but you find these in most gardens. What sets W.S.G. apart is if you look through the gaps in the tall shady trees, you get a stunning view of Sydney, harbour bridge and all. There’s also a lovely park next to the garden, which offers a similarly good view if you prefer somewhere less shaded. It’s a perfect picnic spot tbh. Photo is blurry because it’s a still from a video sorry. Other pic is from the adjacent park.

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Back to Milsons Point and over the bridge on a fairly unremarkable* Waratah A Set one stop to Wynyard, cross-platform change onto a Krusty K Set (K67 and partner) to Circular Quay and down to the ferry quays, here it is with a classmate:

*Waratahs (8 carriage A&B sets) do probably about 75% of Sydney Trains' services out of Central Sydney:
A Sets make up roughly 2/3 of T1 and T9 services with double Tangaras (4 carriage T Sets) providing the rest.
A & B Sets make up again about 2/3 of T2, T3 and T8 services - more likely to get B Sets than A Sets on T2 I find, and it's probably about 50/50 on T3/T8 although I always seem to get B Sets again - with double Millenniums (4 carriage M Sets, there are 35) doing the rest, plus there's forty dated four-car K Sets which assist in weekday peaks only, in pairs. Ironically there are five more K Sets than M Sets, but you're far more likely to see an M Set as they do not use the K Sets much at all, probably about four or five pairs a day max, and in peaks only.
Millenniums don't tend to work often on weekends and there's much fewer Tangaras on T1/T9, so the routes are especially Waratah dominated on weekends. T5 Leppington - Richmond and T7 Olympic Park are two separate shuttles outside of the city centre which tend to use single M Sets on weekdays and A Sets on weekdays. T4 is the only line not to have Waratahs as they draw too much power, so T4 Bondi Jct - Waterfall/Cronulla via Hurstville services are guaranteed to be operated by Tangaras. There is no difference from a passenger perspective between a 2011-2014 introduced A Set and a 2018-2021 introduced B Set other than the 78x A Sets have yellow fronts and LED interior displays and the 41x B Sets have orange fronts and more modern LCD displays, plus the black window band is arranged slightly differently. I prefer A Sets as I think they look nicer (yellow > orange) and the B Set LCDs annoy me as there's so much more you could do with them, yet they display the same information as A Sets but in a silly harder-to-read way.



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Here I chose one of Sydney’s many ferry routes for a nice boat ride to make the most of the nice weather. Cockatoo Island was enticing so I tapped my Opal (valid on ferries) and boarded a ferry for the four stop ride to Cockatoo Island. I sat outside and took in the two most famous touristy sights of the city, because why not. I see them every day and it’s still a joy each time.

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Cockatoo Island itself is pretty but there’s not a lot going on. You could walk around the entire perimeter in about twenty minutes, and that’s what I did, and then I climbed the steps up to the much higher part of the island which involved a very confusing maze-like walk on some extremely unnervingly rickety bridges about fifty metres above the ground. I saw no actual cockatoos but some terrifyingly deafening squarking seagulls (never heard anything like it), and a disused quarry with old bits of rail all over it.

Back on the boat and sat inside this time (very lovely modern interior) and some kayakers sensibly decided to row right in front of the boat, causing lots of horn-soundingness. Sun began to set so that the east remained a clear blue but the west soon turned purple. This photo of me where I’m relaxing with my arms alongside the boat unfortunately makes my arms look puny and shows that I’ve not been to the gym in a few months now, so I’m mainly scratched out :lol:

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Straight onto a tram (Routes 2+3 use double five car Alstom sets) a few stops to QVB for dinner, and then the usual train home to Newtown, either an A or B Set Waratah or a Millennium, can’t remember which to be quite honest. Was a nice day all in all and a good way to make the most of a day that’d been shortened by my lie in.

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Fin. Thanks for reading and I hope you return soon for the next report. Today I woke up late again, and had a scheduled Zoom meeting with staff from my home uni to attend by 7:30pm, so I decided to fill the in-between part of the day by getting a tram to Coogee Beach, where I spent a divine hour-and-half just reading my book in a private part hidden among the rocks by the cliff. It was very nice :) Now I need to look at sorting dinner. :D
 
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Day 16: Double XPT sightings at Hornsby, Wendy’s Secret Garden and Ferry to Cockatoo Island
I did take more photos on this day (click on small thumbnail to view):

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EB71A476-8BD0-4AEF-8F7E-A2911149756C.jpeg Pairs of OSCARs leaving Milsons Point towards Penrith via Parramatta
96D30B8F-B31E-48AC-9404-1B5F47A17F88.jpeg Circular Quay viewed from the platforms
3678268B-79C9-41E2-B08F-C33571F4588D.jpeg The rickety bridges of Cockatoo Island
769F60AE-E767-4242-986A-E644B4641443.jpeg A lonely seagull on Cockatoo Island


For anyone interested in the different types of trains operated by Sydney Trains on suburban services as discussed above in the small print, here’s a table that shows you what we have, courtesy of Wikipedia:

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The H Sets are Outer Suburban trains (OSCars) that usually work for NSW Trainlink Intercity on the Sydney - Kiama and Sydney - Wyong/Newcastle routes, but as mentioned above they do work limited weekday Sydney Trains T1 and T9 services to position themselves for the Wyong via Chatswood services. These will become a permanent part of the Sydney Trains suburban fleet when NSW Trainlink replace them on IC services with D Sets. When working for Sydney Trains the toilets are locked out of use, but the high seatbacks and footrests make the trains a comfortable upgrade on A/B/K/M/T Sets.

As well as the Sydney Trains fleet and OSCARs shown above, from Sydney Central we also have the NSW Trainlink V Sets on Intercity services, NSW Trainlink Endeavour DMUs on limited Intercity services to Bathurst via Katoomba (wires end at Lithgow), NSW Trainlink XPlorer DMUs on long-distance Regional services to Canberra and Broken Hill, and NSW Trainlink XPT diesel power car + carriage sets on the flagship long-distance Regional services to Brisbane/Casino, Dubbo and Melbourne. NSW Trainlink also have Hunter DMUs which run out of Newcastle on routes shared with Endeavour DMUs but don't run them to Sydney. The Indian Pacific runs to Perth over three days but isn't public transport but a luxury train, expect to pay a ridiculous four figure price to travel on that.

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I am already excited to read your tales from New Zealand, it sounds like an epic trip is potentially coming! Good news on your family being interested in moving too, that will make things easier!
I have big plans to explore New Zealand in style :D Let's hope they actually come into fruition :lol:
Manly is very nice, and much better than the more popular Bondi
Yes, so says everyone here too. Coogee was quite nice when I went today, though I prefer Bondi, and Cronulla. I'll wait until I have a full day to do Manly, as one must take a boat and all that hassle. Bondi and Coogee are easy to just pop to if you've got a few hours. Bondi I just take T4 a few stops to Bondi Jct then get the bus for 5 mins or walk for half an hour. Coogee is even easier - ten minute tram from Central to Randwick, ten minute walk down the hill to the beach. Want to do Balmoral Beach at some point too.

FUN FACT: Sydney Central, with 25 platforms, has more platforms than any train station in the United Kingdom, narrowly beating London Waterloo with 24.
Who'd have guessed it? Three are out of use at the moment though, to allow builders to put in the Metro tracks directly underneath.
 
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Auckland first, then scenic train to Wellington, Picton ferry, then probably train to Christchurch before going back.

I wouldn't just give up at Christchurch, I'd recommend getting a bus down to Dunedin (3hrs), couple of days there, then (if running) Taieri Gorge steam train up to Middlemarch, rent a mountain bike (I use https://www.trailjourneys.co.nz) a 3-day cycle to Clyde via the spectacular disused 150km Otago railway line (they'll run your suitcase to the other end for $20), plenty of cheap b&bs on the way, I stayed at Ranfurly and Alexandra. Once at the end, it's a 1 hour bus into Queenstown - NZ's tourism jewel in the crown, stunning lakeside mountain-surrounded town - worth at least 4/5 days there too, also has direct flights back to Oz.
 

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I wouldn't just give up at Christchurch, I'd recommend getting a bus down to Dunedin (3hrs), couple of days there, then (if running) Taieri Gorge steam train up to Middlemarch, rent a mountain bike (I use https://www.trailjourneys.co.nz) a 3-day cycle to Clyde via the spectacular disused 150km Otago railway line (they'll run your suitcase to the other end for $20), plenty of cheap b&bs on the way, I stayed at Ranfurly and Alexandra. Once at the end, it's a 1 hour bus into Queenstown - NZ's tourism jewel in the crown, stunning lakeside mountain-surrounded town - worth at least 4/5 days there too, also has direct flights back to Oz.
Some fantastic ideas there, I’m not one for long cycles though :)
Flight back must be from Christchurch also. Yous will soon see why ;)
 

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I wouldn't just give up at Christchurch, I'd recommend getting a bus down to Dunedin (3hrs), couple of days there, then (if running) Taieri Gorge steam train up to Middlemarch, rent a mountain bike (I use https://www.trailjourneys.co.nz) a 3-day cycle to Clyde via the spectacular disused 150km Otago railway line (they'll run your suitcase to the other end for $20), plenty of cheap b&bs on the way, I stayed at Ranfurly and Alexandra. Once at the end, it's a 1 hour bus into Queenstown - NZ's tourism jewel in the crown, stunning lakeside mountain-surrounded town - worth at least 4/5 days there too, also has direct flights back to Oz.

You're giving me some amazing ideas there! The ride along the disused railway sounds like fun, I definitely need to factor this into my plans!
 

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I did take more photos on this day (click on small thumbnail to view):

View attachment 129722 A Set leaving Milsons Point towards Lindfield
View attachment 129725 Pairs of OSCARs leaving Milsons Point towards Penrith via Parramatta
View attachment 129723 Circular Quay viewed from the platforms
View attachment 129726 The rickety bridges of Cockatoo Island
View attachment 129724 A lonely seagull on Cockatoo Island


For anyone interested in the different types of trains operated by Sydney Trains on suburban services as discussed above in the small print, here’s a table that shows you what we have, courtesy of Wikipedia:

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The H Sets are Outer Suburban trains (OSCars) that usually work for NSW Trainlink Intercity on the Sydney - Kiama and Sydney - Wyong/Newcastle routes, but as mentioned above they do work limited weekday Sydney Trains T1 and T9 services to position themselves for the Wyong via Chatswood services. These will become a permanent part of the Sydney Trains suburban fleet when NSW Trainlink replace them on IC services with D Sets. When working for Sydney Trains the toilets are locked out of use, but the high seatbacks and footrests make the trains a comfortable upgrade on A/B/K/M/T Sets.

I believe Oscars also work on peak hour T4 workings, but I might be wrong.
 

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I believe Oscars also work on peak hour T4 workings, but I might be wrong.
They work out of Bondi Junction and along the T4 but as Intercity services to Kiama, therefore skipping most stations between Redfern and Waterfall that T4 suburban services for Cronulla or Waterfall would call at.
 

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Auckland first, then scenic train to Wellington, Picton ferry, then probably train to Christchurch before going back.

Some fantastic ideas there, I’m not one for long cycles though :)
Flight back must be from Christchurch also. Yous will soon see why ;)

If you’re going South Island, Queenstown is an absolute must, as is a trip up the West coast via Wanaka and the Glaciers. Then on the TranzAlpine over to Christchurch.
 

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Sydney Central, with 25 platforms, has more platforms than any train station in the United Kingdom, narrowly beating London Waterloo with 24.
Who'd have guessed it? Three are out of use at the moment though, to allow builders to put in the Metro tracks directly underneath.
It's also a very grand and handsome station with some great architectural features.
 

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Great to see that you are having a good time over there, was it worth the carrier bags and an evidentially flammable a380 toilet? :lol:
As a more serious question, do you have any websites like RTT which will give you rolling stock allocations in Australia?
I did ask my cousin/ auntie who live over there however sadly they are missing out on the fun of writing down numbers and looking at pieces of metal (sorry if I offended anyone with that, if it makes you feel better, I like doing it a lot):lol:
 

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It's also a very grand and handsome station with some great architectural features.

True but unfortunately developers have their eye on the surroundings with many locals (of which I am not one, as I live 900km away in Melbourne) fearing views of the historic clock tower will be no more.
 

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True but unfortunately developers have their eye on the surroundings with many locals (of which I am not one, as I live 900km away in Melbourne) fearing views of the historic clock tower will be no more.
That would be a pity
 

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The Indian Pacific runs to Perth over three days but isn't public transport but a luxury train, expect to pay a ridiculous four figure price to travel on that.
I'm enjoying reading your posts, taking me back to the places I explored over 20 years ago.

In February 1998 I travelled from Perth to Adelaide on the Indian Pacific. At the time there were standard class carriages attached to the train so I could afford it!!

A couple of memories from the journey were the refuelling of the locos at Cooke in the middle of the desert. We were allowed to disembark for a walk around, the temperature was 60 degrees centigrade!! The diesel was more like vapour than liquid and the guy filling up was smoking a cigarette!!!

Travelling on afterwards the air conditioning in our carriage packed in and an announcement apologizing came on for passengers in our carriage to make their way to the buffet car. We were treated to free drinks for the rest of the journey to Adelaide.

On arriving at Adelaide I spoke to the driver and we talked about driving at such temperatures through the desert. He remarked on parting, It's lovely here only 42 degrees!!
 

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Day 20: Cremorne Point (stunning) and a random and chaotic trip to Lithgow, southern Blue Mountains



(This is not the main report on the Blue Mountains, and contains a trip to Lithgow only. I have a full day planned for Katoomba, Leura, 3 Sisters, etc. so don't freak out thinking I went to the BMs and ignored the main sights :lol: That will come in good time)

This is a bit of a jumbled up report, so apologies for that: the next one is set to be far better don't worry :lol: Again, unfortunately, I woke up rather late (on a beautiful day) due to going out the night before. As usual though, I was determined to make the most of the rest of the day, so although it was early afternoon by the time I had dragged my weary bones out of bed and tackled the unruly blond mop on top of my head (which had turned from the usual curls to a head of absolute FRIZZ) only to ruin my hard-work taming it by stuffing it under a cap, I did get myself down to Newtown and onto an A Set down to Circular Quay to make the most of the great weather. From here, a coffee was obtained, and I drank this on the upper deck of one of Sydney's many ferries down to Cremorne Point, today's location for my daily dip.

Cremorne Point is on the lower north shore, about 6km from the centre, and you'll find some really nice views of the city.

I really do recommend it, and just behind the ferry quay and grassy bank where the photo was taken is this absolute gem of a swimming pool, hidden away among the trees and hung over the sea. It's a saltwater pool filled manually from the sea water and is quite deep, and blissfully warm, perfect for cooling off, and just look at the view for goodness' sake. Did I mention that it's FREE? (Like most of Sydney's best pools, actually)

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The ferry back following an hour's swim was smooth and relaxing - the ferries are extremely pleasant inside, by the way, if you don't get a seat outside or al-fresco sailing just isn't your thing, modern with wide seats and passenger information TVs - and then it was off to the southern Blue Mountains to hang out with a friend for the evening who lives down there. Only today, the Blue Mountains Line was CLOSED for planned track work, so this would not be your textbook journey down to Lithgow.

The Blue Mountains Line runs alongside the suburban T1 and T9 route as far as Emu Plains, which is thirty-three stations from Sydney Central. Naturally, being an express service, the Blue Mountains trains do not call at all of these stations; they call only at Strathfield, Parramatta, Blacktown (sometimes) and Penrith en-route, but as the line was closed from Blacktown (twenty-five stations from Central) onwards, they didn't bother running the Intercity trains from Sydney only for passengers to all empty out at Blacktown, so I had to take the stopping service all the way. And it took ages, on board an A Set Waratah - which while far newer and far more advanced than the BM Line V-Sets, is intended for far shorter journeys and is therefore far less comfortable - which seemed to stop at every nook and cranny between the city and Blacktown. And then it was onto a bus. Joy.

I don't like buses...

The sun set while I was on the bus, or coach rather, and it was a roughly two-hour ride to Lithgow, if not a bit longer. It was comfortable enough, but naturally I'd have preferred a train. At least it was free from Blacktown! Sydney Trains and NSW Trainlink don't charge you for rail replacement road services, and there's nowhere to tap your Opal even if you wanted to pay, but with the fares already so cheap I think I'd have rather just had a train and paid for it. Anyway, I was done with transport for the day now, and enjoyed a nice evening in Lithgow.

The next morning, we drove up to Hassans Point Lookout in Lithgow, which is a really breath-taking look up many many metres up in the air (you have to take a rather scary winding road with little protection on the edge to get there) and from here a very good view of the Blue Mountains was obtained. This was my first trip to the Blue Mountains (a full day in Katoomba and Leura is planned, and possibly Wentworth Falls), and I was very impressed, especially as Lithgow doesn't tend to get much tourist coverage compared to Katoomba and that so it was a nice surprise, and very quiet too.

It's obvious why the mountains are named as they are. They do appear very blue.
I had to rush back fairly early to attend my first seminar of the semester at University of Sydney, so unfortunately we didn't have time for more exploring (but I'll be doing far more when I return soon for a proper look round, this was just a quick trip here for social purposes) and my mate drove me to Mount Victoria (very pleasant scenic drive, and much nicer to be in a nice spacious car than the cramped bus). It was Monday today, and although the trackworks had been finished and most of the line reopened, the half-hour stretch between Lithgow and Mount Victoria remained closed/bustituted.

Mount Victoria station is quaint and pretty, with a few historic/old-fashioned features.

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It was very pleasant to escape the heat (blistering at this point) and board the very well air-conditioned single V Set waiting on the platform. I took my favourite seat in the centre section; adjacent to me were two older ladies and an older gentleman visiting from Southern Australia (where they moved from South Africa several years ago) and they began talking to me and were very pleasant. We got a few glares as we were in the Quiet Zone, but I was not the one initiating the conversation, they were (and it would have been rude to ignore them, not that I wanted to anyway because they were very nice), so I'm not to be blamed for that. Besides, the train remained fairly quiet, and it was a very nice scenic journey through Katoomba and Wentworth Falls, taking approximately two hours to get to Blacktown. I had bought a little punnet of strawberries in Lithgow so I had these on the train.

It got a little busy at Blacktown, and unfortunately, an absolutely fowl, wretched man boarded here, shouting all sorts of nonsense at the top of his voice, and then as he sat (DIRECTLY NEXT TO ME DESPITE A SPARE PAIR OF AIRLINE SEATS IN FRONT), he began spewing the most repulsive racist abuse, hammering on the window at the black man stood on the platform whom the racist man was yelling he had argued with on the platform. The racist verbal diarrhoea from this man was sickening, and the tension in the air as the (by now, many) passengers on the train awkwardly stared at the floor, listening to this waste-of-space ranting on and on. It became especially uncomfortable when he launched into a rant about "Africans in his country," right next to the three passengers who unbeknownst to him came from South Africa. Anyway, I won't waste anymore time on him, but we were all very glad when he got off at Parramatta fifteen minutes later, me especially as after fifteen minutes of this (he didn't stop), all I really wanted to do was push him down the gap between the train and the platform edge! (But that would probably cost me my VISA, so I refrained from doing so ;))

I ditched at Strathfield, another fifteen minutes later so I could get to Redfern, where Uni is and where BM services usually don't stop, so it was onto an A Set which stopped only at Burwood en-route, and down to Redfern and Uni were I found out the seminar had been cancelled so I'd rushed back for nothing.

GIVE ME STRENGTH. What a pi.ss take. I dithered around the city for a bit, got some food, bashed a few Tangaras, and then went off to Monday ice hockey practice. Oh well. It was an enjoyable (and certainly eventful) little trip, anyway. Thanks for reading.

Next report will see me take a long-distance XPLORER DMU to Canberra, which (madly) is Australia's capital.
I'm in a lecture right now, so it's probably bad that I've been writing this rather than taking notes.
Oops.
Have a good 'un.

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If you’re going South Island, Queenstown is an absolute must, as is a trip up the West coast via Wanaka and the Glaciers. Then on the TranzAlpine over to Christchurch.
I'll look into that, thank you. I don't want N.Z. to take any longer than a week though, and everything has to work with the flights and trains which aren't all daily, so we'll have to see. I'll try to start my N.Z. planning (and my Brisbane planning) soon. Many thanks for the suggestion.
It's also a very grand and handsome station with some great architectural features.
It is yes, but it's covered in all kinds of construction works at the moment due to Metro extension building.
Great to see that you are having a good time over there, was it worth the carrier bags and an evidentially flammable a380 toilet?
:lol:

As a more serious question, do you have any websites like RTT which will give you rolling stock allocations in Australia?
I did ask my cousin/ auntie who live over there however sadly they are missing out on the fun of writing down numbers and looking at pieces of metal (sorry if I offended anyone with that, if it makes you feel better, I like doing it a lot)
:lol:
It's very nice over here so yes I am indeed having a good time, thank you.
I have TripView which won't give me the number but will give me the stock type. That's fine as I'm not spotting, but I do prefer to take A Sets over B Sets, K Sets over OSCARS, OSCARS over T Sets, etc. so it's very good for that. You can use it as a trip planner too, so I'll search the best options for, say Newtown to Mascot (my apartment to ice hockey) and it'll tell me which trains to get, which times, and the stock.
I'm enjoying reading your posts, taking me back to the places I explored over 20 years ago.

In February 1998 I travelled from Perth to Adelaide on the Indian Pacific. At the time there were standard class carriages attached to the train so I could afford it!!

A couple of memories from the journey were the refuelling of the locos at Cooke in the middle of the desert. We were allowed to disembark for a walk around, the temperature was 60 degrees centigrade!! The diesel was more like vapour than liquid and the guy filling up was smoking a cigarette!!!

Travelling on afterwards the air conditioning in our carriage packed in and an announcement apologizing came on for passengers in our carriage to make their way to the buffet car. We were treated to free drinks for the rest of the journey to Adelaide.

On arriving at Adelaide I spoke to the driver and we talked about driving at such temperatures through the desert. He remarked on parting, It's lovely here only 42 degrees!!
Many thanks for reading, and also for sharing these memories. That certainly sounds like an experience, although dare I suggest you've got the temperatures ever-so-slightly off? The human body starts to die in temperatures around 50ºC plus, as the body subsequently rises to above 40º and then the enzymes start to "denature," so it doesn't sound like that's humanly possible for it to be 60ºC! :lol: Worth noting a typical very hot day here is 25-32ºC, and the hottest ever recorded temperature was 50.7 in the West, everything was closed and danger warnings were issued! :lol:
 
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This report not as popular then :lol:

No, it was mostly good, so many will have read and largely enjoyed it. They just didn't perceive a need to comment.

While I don't support ranting, Africans from South Sudan (especially) and Somalia have been a problem in Australia, with high rates of criminality compared to the general population. That's a fact: not racist:

"A leader among Melbourne’s African community has issued an emotional plea over social media, calling for a cessation in youth violence, which claimed another young life over the weekend.
In a nine-minute video posted on Instagram, Hanad Hersi claims “our kids are dropping like flies,” adding “as a community, we need to start asking ourselves some real hard questions”..."
(news.com.au 7 December 2022).

However you can't be expected to be aware of that.

And no, you ought not be talking in a quiet car. If others talk, please point to the sign or quietly suggest that the three of you move to the next car, which won't typically be a 'quiet car'. That respects others, same as when I'm in the UK I dont walk up or down escalators on the left even though we do in Australia, and my view that being on the left side makes it easier to use if one has a suitcase in the right hand. Nor do I use a handkerchief to blow my nose on a Japanese train, even though I may elsewhere.

But apart from that, you've achieved an enormous amount already and your reports are informative, descriptive, wide ranging and sometimes funny. Keep up the good work.
 

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While I don't support ranting, Africans from South Sudan (especially) and Somalia have been a problem in Australia, with high rates of criminality compared to the general population. That's a fact: not racist:
This is interesting, but the language he was using definitely was. I can’t repeat it here obviously.
If others talk, please point to the sign or quietly suggest that the three of you move to the next car, which won't typically be a 'quiet car'.
I won’t make noise in the Quiet Zone myself, but I will not be interfering if someone else does; I’ll leave that to the guard :) Not my business really to tell others to be quiet, I’d feel embarrassed.
when I'm in the UK I dont walk up or down escalators on the left even though we do in Australia
Why not? You’ll be going unnecessarily slow then :lol: We tend to stand on the right, to allow those that want to walk to pass on the left. I’m not sure where you’ve got that from :)
But apart from that, you've achieved an enormous amount already and your reports are informative, descriptive, wide ranging and sometimes funny. Keep up the good work.
Sometimes funny?!! :o<( (Joking)
No that’s very kind thank you :)

Day 20: Cremorne Point (stunning) and a random and chaotic trip to Lithgow, southern Blue Mountains

Next trip report: Canberra
Following that: Manly Beach & Mardi Gras
Following that: Dangar Island, Ettawong & Woy Woy

Next trips should be: Port Stephens (and possibly XPT) on Saturday
Katoomba, Leura, Three Sisters & Blue Mountains on Wed 8th
 

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Why not? You’ll be going unnecessarily slow then :lol: We tend to stand on the right, to allow those that want to walk to pass on the left. I’m not sure where you’ve got that from :)

Sorry: I used the wrong term.

In the UK, I don't 'stand' (i.e. motionless, being carried up or down) on the left of escalators because that would contravene the signs and accepted practice in UK.

In Oz, it's normal to stand on the left, so others can pass you on the right, same as we drive in Oz (and UK).
 

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Nothing more exciting than being trapped in your seat on public transport by an unpleasant lunatic, eh!
 

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This report not as popular then :lol:

I read it in a hurry on break at work, I had only a few minutes before I had to get back to the floor so I never got around to commenting.

I am happy to hear the Blue Mountains was nice, when I went to Katoomba the weather was not as pleasant. It cleared up a fair bit after I left though, the forecasted storm that day didn't produce!
 

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I read it in a hurry on break at work, I had only a few minutes before I had to get back to the floor so I never got around to commenting.

I am happy to hear the Blue Mountains was nice, when I went to Katoomba the weather was not as pleasant. It cleared up a fair bit after I left though, the forecasted storm that day didn't produce!
Ignore me I wasn’t really sulking I was more joking :lol: I’m not that spoilt and needy ;) My main trip to the BMs including Katoomba is planned for this day next week, when there is forecast to be no clouds at all! :D
Nothing more exciting than being trapped in your seat on public transport by an unpleasant lunatic, eh!
Quite so!
 

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Don't bother paying for the 'Explorer Bus' at Katoomba: there's a public bus route down to the area.

I have been to Scenic World and thought it a huge ripoff, apart from the famous though brief in duration railway.

Public walking paths are most enjoyable: you should have great views, and experience the Australian bush again. Many birds and butterflies.
 

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Day 23: CANBERRA (by XPlorer…ish)

I bought a random return to Canberra at about 4am last Thursday, when I couldn't sleep. The tickets were about $15 each way (an extra $8-ish for first class - not available on return though), and as I had no plans for the day yet, decided to pay it a visit before lectures and seminars started properly at uni. Also, Sydney and the whole of the surrounding area was planned to be stormy and cloudy, so why waste a free day in weather like that? Canberra was said to be slightly cloudy but far sunnier than Sydney.

There's no point going to sleep for three hours, in fact when the alarm sounded shortly after I'd have just dropped off, I'd have felt the lack of sleep far more than if I just pulled an all-nighter, so I packed a backpack, did a few bits and bobs on my laptop, and then went down to Newtown station and across to Central to board the 07:12 service to Canberra.

There were three other Regional services in the station, including the XPT bound for Casino and that arriving from Melbourne (I think), plus another going TO Melbourne, but mine would be XPlorer 2525, a three-carriage DMU very outwardly similar to an Endeavour unit, but with a far more suitable interior for long-distance services - one highly reminiscent of - if not identical to - an XPT. I am aware that XPlorers have a buffet car, but unaware of what I might find here I figured it best just to grab a sandwich just in case I found nothing suitable at the buffet for the four and a half hour journey, so I grabbed a very expensive (oh well, only thing on offer really) from the café on the main concourse before finding my seat.

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Regarding the XPlorer’s interior, to most people there is no difference to be seen between it and the XPT. The seat is far more comfortable than it looks and reclines very generously indeed - albeit backwards a la aeroplanes, so invading the person behind’s space. This train would stop at Camperdown on the Sydney Trains’ patch and Moss Vale and Goulburn on the wider NSW Trainlink network - all three stations within the very broad Opal zone - but alighting at Camperdown is not really allowed, not that they do much if you try to though, and Opal cannot be used, rather you must have a ticket and a compulsory seat reservation. The diesel operated XPlorer and XPT services, with their few times daily (or less) services to Canberra, Melbourne, Dubbo, Broken Hill and Brisbane/Casino are the only trains that work this way and you can use your Opal on almost all other trains including the 100 mile+ Intercity journeys from Sydney to Newcastle, Lithgow and Bathurst via Katoomba, Goulburn via Moss Vale, and Kiama and Bomaderry via Wollongong.

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(This is the empty rear carriage. My booked seat was initially in the centre carriage which was packed)

Woe betide me, that my seat should be allocated directly the row behind a family with two very noisy, screaming (yes, screaming - from excitement of the game they were playing but still screaming) children. My heart sank. Call me a miserable twit, and I’m well aware kids must get very bored on trains and can’t help making a racket - and not all do, I’m not going to generalise - but these were very loud and I knew that four and a half hours of that would make what I hoped would be a very enjoyable journey somewhat torturous! Then to make matters worse, the woman next to me sat down, put her phone to her ear and yapped on at full volume for a good fifteen minutes while stationery, continuing once we’d pulled out of Central and was still going five minutes into the journey when the ticket inspector came round. What a nightmare when I’d had no sleep and wanted to snooze for part of the journey.

Oh, I was too busy bittching about the kids to mention: The ride is seamless. So smooth and so silent, with the subtlest engines I've ever experienced, I honestly had to check I hadn't got on the similarly-timed Melbourne XPT by mistake!

Now, once you’ve left the station and the inspector has “checked you in,” you can move to a free seat. First class is only half a carriage (next to the noisy buffet) and was almost full anyway, plus all you get is more legroom and more recline, both of which were exceptionally generous (and far better than British provisions) in standard, so I had forefitted the additional charge to travel First. My seat had been in the extremely packed (every seat full) middle carriage. The guard knew I wanted to move as I’d asked him on the platform and he’d said I could once the on-board check-in had taken place, so he quietly said under his breath “Go and find a seat in D if you like, pick any it’s unbooked), and I walked into the third carriage (D - there’s no C) which was EMPTY apart from a couple at the seat closest to the door and a girl sleeping right at the back! Why they keep one of the two standard class carriages free on a booked seat only service I have no clue, but I wasn’t about to complain at this moment. I went and picked a perfect seat at the back and settled in very happily.

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My happiness subsided when I opened the sandwich and bit into the driest, most unbearable bread imaginable. The filling was nice but scarce, it was just mouthfuls of dry tasteless bread, so it was into the bin with that and down to the EXCEPTIONALLY cheap buffet. My god, it's ridiculous. In Britain we tend to find the on-board food is a fortune and it's much cheaper to get something from the shops at the station beforehand, but I wish I hadn't done that now because here it's the other way round. Full dinners (available on longer services only) cost about $8/£4.50, hot pies and sausage rolls are about $4/£2.25, etc. They do cream tea style scones with jam and cream, so I ordered one of those and the nice guy behind the bar told me he'd bring me that to my seat. Amusingly he came to my seat about ten minutes later and sheepishly admitted he'd burnt the scone so it would be another ten minutes; I wasn't quite done with writing the trip report about Cronulla/Bundeena on my laptop so was more than happy to wait. It was only about the equivalent of £3 and was fresh, warm and delicious. The jam was exceptionally obviously homemade, it was runny and tasted absolutely fabulous. I don't like clotted cream that much (always brings in shocked gasps of outrage) so used that sparingly and sloshed the jam on by the dozen to compensate. It is tradition in Devon, from where the treat is most famous, to serve with a pot of tea, but it is tradition in TT-ONR-NRN's life to serve most things with a medium-to-large-sized can of Red Bull (it's gonna cause me an early death, I promise you) so that is exactly what I did :D

I wonder if @Cowley would approve of the XPlorer's scone with jam and cream, proudly being from the UK's loveliest county (joint with neighbouring Cornwall) himself? ;) The finest cream teas, I find, are served in Lynton and Lynmouth, at the National Trust site by the waterfall. It's somewhere my family have always visited and enjoyed, a tradition for whenever we're lucky enough to be down there. God I do love Devon and Cornwall - need to pop down there this British summer. STOP DIGRESSING TT!

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Oh dear, a significant ruin to my appetite by the repulsive middle-aged man (must have been 50s to 60s) who sat in the adjacent airline seats - what am I saying they're all airline seats - removed his shoes and socks and stretched his bunioned bare feet into the aisle centimetres from me! And then he turned around, with his back to the aisle, and pressed his bare feet against the window! Then, after rubbing them UP AND DOWN THE WINDOW and sighing with relaxation as he left sweat marks reminiscent of a snail trail with his soles, he stuck them on the pull down table, decided that wasn't very comfy, shoved them down the window into the space of the empty seat in front, and then after ten minutes returned them to the aisle. Oh, and he kept standing up in the aisle and doing stretches while gripping the aisle seat next to his with his left hand and the aisle seat next to mine with his right, so despite this being an empty carriage I had an irritating man with an apparently abysmal concept of hygiene right up my back.

Do you know, he's not the first to do that with the feet. Only today I had an old man take his shoes and socks off and prop them on the seat in front, rubbing them all over the moquette and all. I filmed it and put it on TikTok, and frankly I don't care if that's an invasion of privacy. If one is happy to do publicly do such shameful things they're obviously happy for my sixty-thousand followers to see it and rage at him in the comments. I had only woken up an hour before and hadn't even finished the obligatory Red Bull so my stomach was weak and it made me feel sick. ANYWAY I DIGRESS.

The scenery is nowhere near as nice as it is on the Central Coast Line towards Newcastle (puts Scotland Highlands to shame), or the still very nice but not nearly as impressive South Coast Line towards Kiama, because it's mainly just deserty outback, but it's still pleasant enough to see. Oh, and I did see a kangaroo grazing in a field. Though the intention is for all XPT/XPlorer seats to be forward-facing, I know how to rotate them, and I did just that to the pair in front using the awkward little pedal (with Sydney Trains seats and InterCity seats you just grab the seat back and pull it, much easier) so that I could lose the feeling of having an airline seat. I lost the benefit of my pull down table doing this, but I was done with my laptop by now anyway. And so I just relaxed for the rest of the journey and it was great, especially once fungal-foot-Frankie as I named him had put his frigging shoes back on.

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Canberra station. God, isn't it underwhelming for a capital city. It's literally a single platform with a small freight yard alongside, and a modern and functional yet sparse building with an information desk, loos and rows of seats for waiting that remind me a bit of an airport gate. The station is served by the three or four departures a day to Sydney Central and THAT IS IT. Bit poor really. It's also about 2 miles from the city centre, so one must take a bus.

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Welcome to Canberra.
So that I may use upto eighteen pictures for this report rather than the usual limit of nine, I am splitting this report into two. They will both be coming out at the same time. Please read the post below to continue reading.

End of part one. Part two will now be written and uploaded immediately.
 
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Epic yikes to that nasty fool with the feet! Ugh!

As for clotted cream, I've never liked it either so you're not the only one!
 

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So that I may use up to eighteen pictures for this report rather than the usual limit of nine, I am splitting this report into two. They will both be coming out at the same time. Please read the post below to continue reading.


End of part one. Part two will now be written and uploaded immediately.
Day 23: CANBERRA - Part Two
Part One is two posts above (Tech you’re a forum legend so I'll forgive you for causing a divide between my two parts :(;):lol:)

As soon as I stepped outside of Canberra station and walked to the bus stop, I was greeted with a sign warning me of active kangaroos.

The good news is Canberra isn't in the Opal zone, nor is it actually in New South Wales; why is this good news? Because they have their own smart card system, the bus driver couldn't be bothered to tell me how to use it/where to obtain a card, or to get the ticket machine loaded, so I was driven into the city centre for free. After an enjoyable but long journey, I was raring to go now - ready to stretch my legs and have a good meander at my leisure round a beautiful big city (not nearly as big as Sydney I knew, but that's fine) full of impressive buildings, maybe by using their tram network which I'd heard of.

Well, I was dropped off in a tiny little suburb that reminded me of the area in Aldershot where they're building all the new houses. Oh wait, hang on - I realised - that wasn't what had happened. What had happened is that I had severely overestimated how big and city-like Canberra would be.

I'd been dropped off in Canberra city centre, and it was adorably tiny. And sort of empty other than endless office buildings and the odd residential one.

I had to wander round for a bit to find out what was going on in the city, to be honest I struggled to find anything notable at first, other than a shopping centre and a rather pretty street with cafes and food outlets, so I got myself a mocha and tried super-stereotype Vegemite - because it's a must try - on toast, which isn't bad at all but it's got an odd petrol smell and is more bitter than my childhood favourite Marmite. A fellow customer and the staff got chatting to me and were very excited to see my try it for the first time. I've ended up chatting to random strangers a lot while in Australia, (by the way TODAY WED 1ST MARKS EXACTLY ONE MONTH IN AUS :)) and while I don't like to generalise in such a way, Australian people are just the loveliest, friendliest most warm and welcoming people I've ever met, they are a real pleasure and have made me feel so welcome, what a change from UK especially in Cardiff where I've found a lot of South Wales can be very blunt and rude) I was still hungry so a nice fish taco was in order from a street food stand, and then as I was informed by many people that Canberra had no tourist information outlets, it was onto my phone to see what there was to do.

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Unfortunately, the tram is a let down for tourists currently as it goes from the very edge of the small city centre into the residential suburbs, so it's pretty much useless if you don't want to commute to and from the northern housing estates, though I went for a ride a few stops and back anyway. Like Sydney Line 1 (the Alstom units on Line 2 and 3, and there's a couple on Line 1 too are much nicer IMO) and Newcastle's little tram route, Canberra uses CAF URBOS. I believe the line is being extended, which is something. It appeared that the war memorial and parliament buildings were essential sights, the latter being rather a distance (about a mile, maybe just over) from where I was at the time, so I grabbed an electric scooter and whizzed off on that. Now THAT was when my day started to be very fun indeed. I zoomed around the rest of the city, past the War Memorial which was unfortunately covered in building works (got a photo anyway) and over the pleasant bridge over the river, where it was straight down to the Parliament new and old buildings. I whizzed around them on the scooter getting various shots from various angles, somehow mastering the art of one-handed scootering so that I could take photos and change the music on my AirPods (since lost, tragic story for another time) simultaneously. And from there it was back towards the bridge and down to the multi-national flags of lots of countries by the river. I spent about an hour on the scooter and racked up ten miles, and it felt great.

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I must have circulated the city about three times by now and there really wasn't anything more to do, much as I'd enjoyed my time in the city trying the Vegemite and whizzing round on the e-scooter, I personally did find Canberra to be rather boring and empty (no offence) and it baffles me that Sydney isn't the capital of the country as is commonly thought by the more ignorant among humans. Someone here told me how it was historically made capital because Sydney and Melbourne were in a big dispute over which should be the capital, so they picked Canberra to stop that squabble, and if true that's bananas as I personally think both Sydney and Melbourne (or Brisbane perhaps?) would be more ideal than Canberra, which truth be told makes my hometown of Farnham look exciting. - Please don't take offence at this Australians, it is a very nice place, it's just not my cup of tea, I like places with a little more showy-perzazz. That's not for everyone.

Anyway it was about 4pm or just after and I'd been here since 11am, and I decided to get the bus back to Canberra station ahead of the 5pm train, resolving to get dinner from the bistro. Unfortunately, after missing the stop and walking a bonus half-mile to the station, I was greeted with this sign:

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Attention Customers
* The 5:08pm train to Sydney has been cancelled and will be replaced by Coaches
* Please listen for announcements and staff instructions
* There will be **NO** checked luggage

Yes, the inbound XPlorer from Sydney had failed, and though it eventually got moving on one engine only and sagged into the station with a very sad grace (or lack of grace), staff told us it was completely knackered and would not be returning to Sydney today. So, joy, it was onto a coach. Now I was not happy at all, because a big part of booking this (expensive compared to Opal destinations) trip was to do an XPlorer, and I'd have been less bothered if Canberra had been an exciting destination and I'd had an incredible time there a la Melbourne, Port Kembla, Cronulla, my first exploration of Central Sydney, etc. but I'd been vastly underwhelmed and a teeny bit bored there, so I was a little peed off that now I would have to get a coach too.

Oh well, it is what it is, and I got a fairly good seat right at the front with a great view. I was the only one on the coach not to have anyone next to me. Ironically, the views from the coach were arguably somewhat more impressive than those from the train, but OH... how I longed for that enormous reclining seat and big table, and the masses of legroom, and another cream tea - or ANY food at all! Do remember I'd skipped dinner assuming I'd get on a train home, and the trains have a Bistro! Canberra station is also in the middle of nowhere, so I'd ran like a maniac down the street on hearing about the bustitution to quickly find somewhere to grab food before sitting on a coach for hours, and only found a little market. I got a pie, which was unspeakably awful and very unsatisfying :lol: Had Canberra been served by more trains a day, I'd have taken a later service, even if it went somewhere else (I'd have just changed) but that train was the third and final service of the day.

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When the coach stopped at Goulburn (boundary of the Opal card) an hour and half later, the very friendly driver called "there's a lot of traffic on the motorway, dudes, I recommend you get out here and take the Opal service." I did just that, because I'd take a train over a coach any day, even though there would be an hour's wait at Goulburn. I filled this by popping to a fast food place and buying a (very average) chicken burger, and then going to Woolworths where I bought a punnet of simply fabulous blackberries - all larger and fatter than my thumb and not a single sour one among them, blissful. Australia's fruit and vegetable variety is mesmerising, I always take pictures of the fresh produce section in Woolworths and Coles, about fifteen different types of lettuce, dragonfruits, durians, guavas, whole pomegranates, drinking coconuts and more.

I did not touch in, and I told the station lady I wouldn't be doing so, because I am not going to pay $20 for a Regional ticket just to be charged an additional $9 to go home on a stopping service. She agreed this was more than fair. Onto the Goulburn - Campbelltown NSW Trainlink InterCity service, operated by a 2 car Endeavour DMU (almost identical to XPlorers but fitted with a very basic interior using 3+2 seating - the same seats as H Set OSCARS). It sadly was an enormous downgrade on the luxurious XPlorer I'd had that morning (and should have been on right then!) It was a two and a half hour jaunt to Campbelltown but I got engrossed in Prince Harry's book (still don't like him or Meghan, but now I don't like William or Kate at all either. It made me like Charles though - was never a big fan partly due to The Crown but I've come to really like him since he became King, and he also surprisingly comes across well in Spare, as a loving father but one who struggles to show his feelings) and so it passed quite quickly.

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Two and a half hours later, and I'm at Campbelltown, where the service terminates and where I'm supposed to change onto a Sydney Trains service (the electrification and suburban Sydney Trains routes start one stop before at Macarthur two minutes away), but find the last direct service to Sydney Central has gone due to engineering works over the usual route via Wolli Creek. Instead, I'm told to board the incoming M Set (Millennium) train bound for Richmond via Schofields and change at Glenfield, so it's a half-hour journey on the M Set, and onto an A Set (A50) Waratah at Glenfield which led me on a 90 minute stopping service journey via Granville and Strathfield before I finally arrive at Newtown at 00:16, about three hours after I'd have got there if my XPlorer DMU had ran as planned. I don't even think I'm entitled to delay repay! I wonder what time the coach got to Central...

Well, it was certainly eventful, and looking back I am glad I did it, as it gave me a taste of NSW Trainlink Regional long-distance, it let me tick the capital city off, and the return journey was an adventure to say the least.

I hope you've enjoyed reading this report, and I hope you'll check back in a couple of days to read the next one, which is about my train (a rare stock type for Newtown, although if you're not familiar with Sydney Trains you won't be fazed with the stock) and ferry journey to blissful Manly, followed by an eventful Mardi Gras festival later on. I've also got a report about my trip to the lusciously remote Dangar Island and Woy Woy from today coming up - featuring a tiny little boat and lots of H/V Set bashing - and I plan to visit the stunning looking Port Stephens (I might take a V Set or I might spend a bit more and take an XPT ;)) this weekend, followed by Blue Mountains next Wednesday.

Tirrah.
 
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So that I may use upto eighteen pictures for this report rather than the usual limit of nine, I am splitting this report into two. They will both be coming out at the same time. Please read the post below to continue reading.


End of part one. Part two will now be written and uploaded immediately.
Day 23: CANBERRA - Part Two
And finally just a few more pictures (thumbnails so click to see properly):

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3F993004-BF10-44F2-B97A-EEC42B7226E2.jpeg The enormous sweet blackberries were much appreciated on the 2.5 hour stopping service from Goulburn to Campbelltown

FABB06E2-159F-4B05-BF8E-22292425127A.jpeg Finally a familiar face - A Set Waratah (A50) to take me from Glenfield home to Newtown. Long journey overall. Australia’s a big place!

Don't bother paying for the 'Explorer Bus' at Katoomba: there's a public bus route down to the area.

I have been to Scenic World and thought it a huge ripoff, apart from the famous though brief in duration railway.

Public walking paths are most enjoyable: you should have great views, and experience the Australian bush again. Many birds and butterflies.
Yes, it'll be Opal on public buses only for me! I do feel like Scenic World is a must despite the price. Just a quick trip for the steep railway and the cable cars. Thanks for the tips. :)
Epic yikes to that nasty fool with the feet! Ugh!

As for clotted cream, I've never liked it either so you're not the only one!
Honestly I wanted to scream at him. Why on earth didn't I moan to the TM? Actually, he kept walking through and I'm sure he could see.
 

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Why they keep one of the two standard class carriages free on a booked seat only service I have no clue
I'm going to take a guess at somewhere between 1) reservation system just fills it coach by coach, and 2) it enables them to swap coaches between services to match expected demand.

The ride is seamless. So smooth and so silent, with the subtlest engines I've ever experienced, I honestly had to check I hadn't got on the similarly-timed Melbourne XPT by mistake!
It's amazing what you can do with a bit of insulation. They're only a wee bit younger than the 159/0 fleet, just to rub it in, though the drivetrain is closer to that of a 185's.

Canberra station. God, isn't it underwhelming for a capital city. It's literally a single platform with a small freight yard alongside, and a modern and functional yet sparse building with an information desk, loos and rows of seats for waiting that remind me a bit of an airport gate. The station is served by the three or four departures a day to Sydney Central and THAT IS IT. Bit poor really. It's also about 2 miles from the city centre, so one must take a bus.
Honestly, you're lucky it's there at all. Everybody else is flying.

I personally did find Canberra to be rather boring and empty (no offence) and it baffles me that Sydney isn't the capital of the country as is commonly thought by the more ignorant among humans. Someone here told me how it was historically made capital because Sydney and Melbourne were in a big dispute over which should be the capital, so they picked Canberra to stop that squabble, and if true that's bananas as I personally think both Sydney and Melbourne (or Brisbane perhaps?) would be more ideal than Canberra
It's true. Melbourne was the interim seat of parliament, but Canberra was selected as a compromise for the permanent seat. The concession to NSW is that it's much closer to Sydney than it is to Melbourne. The concept is not entirely different to that of, say, Washington DC over New York, or Bern over Zurich or Geneva or Basel, and similarly if there was suitable patch of bare land somewhere a bit further north in England than London I'd suggest decanting Whitehall into it rather than having to entertain endless squabbling between Birmingham and Manchester.

And speaking as somebody with extraordinarily close ties to both Brisbane or Melbourne, I oppose vehemently even the slightest suggestion that silly Sydney people should be given grounds to inflate their silly egos even more :p
 

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and then going to Woolworths where I bought a punnet of simply fabulous blackberries - all larger and fatter than my thumb and not a single sour one among them, blissful. Australia's fruit and vegetable variety is mesmerising, I always take pictures of the fresh produce section in Woolworths and Coles, about fifteen different types of lettuce, dragonfruits, durians, guavas, whole pomegranates, drinking coconuts and more.
Woolworths still exist?
 
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