Bombardier win London Overground contract for 45 EMUs

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Bombardier have now issued a press release confirming the new trains are Aventras.

http://uk.bombardier.com/content/gb/en/media/newsList/details.bt-2015070315-bombardier-signs-major-rolling-stock-and-maintenan.bombardiercom.html
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Wow a 35 year maintenance contract too.

 

[D365]

No real surprises then as far as I can tell.

 

[jon0844]

Wow a 35 year maintenance contract too.

That's a lot of buttons they're going to need to stock up on then.

(Sorry!)

 

[D365]

That's a lot of buttons they're going to need to stock up on then.

(Sorry!)

Will this do?

 

[slick]

Lets hope they dont go too crazy with inovation. Im hoping for a Class 700-esq cab!

 

[jon0844]

Will this do?

That's just one! He can't be everywhere at once (however fast he can drive!).

 

[Mikey C]

That's just one! He can't be everywhere at once (however fast he can drive!).

With this year's McLaren Honda, his speed is more 378 than Maglev!

 

[slick]

http://http://www.globalrailnews.com/2015/07/20/first-look-at-the-newest-addition-to-london-overgrounds-fleet/

First images released. As has been stated before on here new build off the aventra platform. Not a fan of the lights but other than that not bad!

 

[332 > 444]

Looks a bit more Talent 2 like. But will these have toilets??

 

[47802]

Looks like they have had to take notice of some TFL design consultants which would be better ignored

 

[D365]

Looks like a 'baby badger':

 

[jopsuk]

Looks a bit more Talent 2 like. But will these have toilets??

I would have thought not?

 

[WatcherZero]

Body lines haven't changed but frontage has changed a bit.

They even kept the body length orange line just above the doors and extended it on to the front.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

I'm surprised that they've gone for slide and plug doors, i'd have expected sliding doors for any "metro" type route

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I'd say the revised front end is a big improvement.

 

[Class 170101]

Also why the aerodynamic front not exactly highspeed routes where these trains will be operating?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

That's probably a way of designing in the crash protection without turning it into something as ugly as the 380s.

 

[Haydn1971]

Sloping front gives an impression of fast swish service - can see why TfL want that

 

[Domh245]

Despite being part of the same family, this unit and the 345s have got some differences, most notably the lights, but also windscreen wipers. Both of the renders do seem to have missed out the electrical block on the coupler

As for the doors, because none of the lines that these will be operating over are high-frequency like the ELL, door operating speed shouldn't be the most pressing matter

 

[47802]

I'm surprised that they've gone for slide and plug doors, i'd have expected sliding doors for any "metro" type route

Personally I'm taking these images with a pinch of salt and wait to see what both these and the Crossrail units really look like, and that includes whether or not they get sliders or plugs.

 

[gazthomas]

http://http://www.globalrailnews.com/2015/07/20/first-look-at-the-newest-addition-to-london-overgrounds-fleet/

First images released. As has been stated before on here new build off the aventra platform. Not a fan of the lights but other than that not bad!

Looks like at 175

 

[fgwrich]

Looks like at 175

Rather what I was thinking too. Just with the lights moved upwards, the cab windows borrowed from the Voyager and the doors - are they pinched from the Networkers?!

 

[swt_passenger]

They even kept the body length orange line just above the doors and extended it on to the front.

That's the OHLE Warning line, common to all stock that works under wires, it's not part of the livery.

 

[Skimble19]

Whats with that strange cab door?! The one from the original render was much better.. lights are odd too.

 

[jon0844]

The lights are just horrid, look like something from the 1970s. Hope this isn't really what they'll look like.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Will the cross rail units and these be exactly the same apart from whatever option the TOC goes for for the passenger doors?

 

[swt_passenger]

Will the cross rail units and these be exactly the same apart from whatever option the TOC goes for for the passenger doors?

Crossrail are 9 x 23m car fixed formation. LO are 4 x 20m. Not that identical.

Oh and just remembered the Crossrail units have 3 sets of doors per carriage, another not insignificant difference.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

The lights are just horrid, look like something from the 1970s. Hope this isn't really what they'll look like.

I'd have to disagree with you there; it's better than the recent trend for headlights that look like evil eyes.

 

[jon0844]

Maybe, and it's all subjective, but they look like someone forgot to add them and just cut out two holes afterwards.

 

[47802]

I'm a bit puzzled as to why the Crossrail units appear to have a sliding Electrostar style door for the cab, but these appear to have a voyager style hinged door, I don't really see why they would be different which why I'm somewhat sceptical as to how accurate these images are, after all Porterbrook produced an upgrade brochure for the 319's there is one image showing a new cab front but not only does it show it with a new cab front but it also appears to get a body side like a 365 along with plug doors