Kite159
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Probably someone within the DfT decided they were more trouble than it was worth regarding staffing & training the staff
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XC Voyager Refurbishment
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Probably someone within the DfT decided they were more trouble than it was worth regarding staffing & training the staff
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To be fair, that was my first though when I read about the proposal, so I'm not surprised to hear it probably isn't going to happen.
Aka “Chime Wibble”…
As others have said, we wait for a more verifiable source to confirm. Not that this isn’t unexpected though.
The Welsh Fish
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220017 out of Litchurch Lane yesterday, theres a unit going in today
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220012 is the unit that went into Derby, as of this weekends swap. This leaves 12 units left in service in the unrefurbished livery (005 is still stripped down at Central Rivers)
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rower40
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New milestone...
I'm currently on a double-set, both units of which are refurbed.
(1V46 0642 York to Plymouth, 22nd Sept 2026.)
tumbles
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I had that last week on the 1503 Manchester Piccadilly to Bristol Temple Meads (15th Sept) - I guess with only 12 left to do it'll be more common.
Amos390
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When they finish them 12 will they move straight on to the 221s or will there be a period where nothing much happens there?
FlybeDash8Q400
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Unless it finishes over the Christmas period I don’t see why they wouldn’t just switch straight to the 221’s. Though looking at how many are left, it’s probably more likely to be January/February before the 220’s are all done. However if it’s three being done at a time, then as soon as the 3rd to last 220 is done, the first 221 should go in.
I’d imagine they’ll do the 4 car 221’s first, just so all of the 4 cars are done. After that the original XC 5 Car 221’s, then the ex Avanti ones last. The latter of which was confirmed previously.
Wyrleybart
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I was on 1V66 last week with a pair, and I think it is relatively common now
-Colly405-
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First ones I saw as a pair were on August 15th, when heading to Imberbus
sabanda
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220017 is back in traffic today, working with unrefurbished 220026
Saw a double on 7th April so hasn't been a rarity for a while
And it seems to be the 5 car 221's for EDI-PNZ, so I won't see any of the refurbishment on this year's Cornish holiday.
Amos390
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There seems to be another switch today in lit church, which units will these be?
FlybeDash8Q400
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There’s two paths from Litchurch Lane to Central Rivers today and another two tomorrow. Absolutely no idea what they could be, but I have seen plenty of suggestions elsewhere that it is some of 101-106.
A pair of 180’s (109 today and 113 yesterday) have also been moved to Eastleigh from Litchurch Lane, so I’m not sure if there’s a space issue at the moment.
A path has also appeared for Saturday. That is probably 220009.
The Welsh Fish
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The only unrefurbished 220s not in service today were 220020 and 220032 so it could’ve been one of them going to Litchurch
CR165022
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Are we sure a unit swap actually happened today and it wasn't just one of the stored 221s doing a few runs back & forth?
Defiance149
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5Z21 to Central Rivers was 221106 in between 43480/465 and 43484/468 with barriers, Unknown what was on the 5Z52 return.
sabanda
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011 went in today, with 009 coming out.
The Welsh Fish
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Does it still carry its nameplate?
Could this list be updated? It’s useful to have the current state in a single place.
Thanks in anticipation!
tumbles
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One gripe I have - great that the fold down tables are longer but my god when someone flips one up behind it absolutely clatters into the seat like someone kicking it from behind - guess over time the tray table mech will not be quite so firm!
Railuser1176
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220 031 was the most recent to complete refurbishment with 220 017 being in 2nd place.
The Welsh Fish
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Was 5D94 Barton Under Needwood to Litchurch and 5D26 Litchurch to Barton Under Needwood a voyager swap yesterday?
TT-ONR-NRN
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As we expected, the remaining eight 221s will join XC.
A dedicated thread for that here:
www.railforums.co.uk
A dedicated thread for that here:
As we expected: Remaining eight 221s for XC
CrossCountry have today confirmed acquisition of the eight remaining Class 221 - that’s six currently off lease and two on short-term loan to Grand Central. As I’m sure we all expected...
www.railforums.co.uk
sabanda
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I presume 004 came out. Not sure which would have gone in?
The Welsh Fish
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I dont think 220014, 015 or 024 have been in service since last week so one of those three is my guess
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It’s confirmed 004 went out, unsure which one went in. Ill look daily for the allocations of the unrefurbed voyagers to see which ones are in service or not. 010,018,020,022,026,030,032 and 034 are in service today so it won’t be them
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sabanda
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024 was in service yesterday so can be ruled out as well.
Apedlar12
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I would say that it was probably either 014 or 015 that has now gone in, as both of those haven't been used since the 5th and 8th October respectively.
oscarthecat92
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Experienced a refurb for the first time today with 2x refurbed 220s heading a peak hour service up towards Glasgow. It is certainly a big improvement on the old interiors with noticeably better legroom and tables which are appropriately sized for laptops. With 8 carriages it was busy rather than crowded, if XC can deliver this as a consistent experience it’ll be a vast improvement on what went before.