Wheelchair passenger not allowed to board

[jimrbrobinson]

Ah now I get it lol, basic maths not the brains I thought you might have been, nope I'm not the guards eldest son

Please don't follow that up now by saying you're his youngest!

 

[tonyaran]

yes, but he types sense, doesnt make up pure rubbish, and sounds like at top bloke, once more my friend, you are the polar opposite

Then why dont you bring him to Manchester tonight. I hear there is a Gay Pride festival on too.

 

[jon0844]

I will not answer any questions put by you. I have just found out that you are the guard's eldest son.

I don't get it. Is that a joke?

If you really think that and tell anyone that, then it really does say what lengths you'll go to to lie and deceive.

And no, I'm not the son of the guard who I don't know. I will however be asking a few questions of my dad, who is Welsh and lives in Hertfordshire, what's going on!

Then why dont you bring him to Manchester tonight. I hear there is a Gay Pride festival on too.

I don't even know where to begin with that one.

 

[NRWUser]

I have revealed this information before on DS. Troll your way through it. This was when getting out at Guide Bridge. Hist 'but last time' must be a reference to someone else, not me. And your last paragraph is incorrect.

So the guard has struggled with the ramp, and yourself, getting off a train at Guide Bridge? Is that correct?

 

[GB]

And I am telling you he is the guard's eldest son and he is using his middle name Anvil.

A few posts ago you were saying Jonmorris was his son, now its Anvil? Which is it?

Originally Posted by jonmorris0844:
That would have been potentially very dangerous. Might this be a reason that it will never be allowed to happen again? Let's imagine that a guard might say something along the lines of 'last time'... referring to this.

Then posted by tonyaryan:
I will not answer any questions put by you. I have just found out that you are the guard's eldest son.

 

[Hobbit Feet]

Then why dont you bring him to Manchester tonight. I hear there is a Gay Pride festival on too.

What the blazes?

 

[tonyaran]

With the shorter ramp between the two steps on the train, and the longer ramp from the top step to the ground.

Eh? Then what is the point of the shorter ramp?

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Eh? Then what is the point of the shorter ramp?

To stop the longer ramp from bending so much.

 

[theblackwatch]

At this rate I suspect that today we may break the record for the highest number of posts on the forum in a single day! I've only skimmed through the thread but there was one comment which caught my attention (post 259).

And that is all I have to say on this matter.

 

[Hobbit Feet]

Eh? Then what is the point of the shorter ramp?

To stop it rocking and to stabilise it.


Even I know that now

 

[tonyaran]

I don't get it. Is that a joke?

If you really think that and tell anyone that, then it really does say what lengths you'll go to to lie and deceive.

And no, I'm not the son of the guard who I don't know. I will however be asking a few questions of my dad, who is Welsh and lives in Hertfordshire, what's going on!



I don't even know where to begin with that one.

Am talking aboout Anvil.

 

[jon0844]

Sorry, I think I just wet myself reading that!!

Jonmorris was being sarcastic to another poster when he said the guard was his father!

Actually I said the DRIVER was my father - not the guard. But, yes, it was a joke!

Anyway, by the sound of it - the guard has many kids!

I'm gutted that I've got to go out now - and will come back too drunk to post (and I hope I don't try to!). I'll have a lot to read in the morning. LOL!

 

[jimrbrobinson]

To stop the longer ramp from bending so much.

The shorter ramp spreads the load of the longer ramp to stop it resting against the point of the step beneath, which could otherwise cause a pressure fracture as the load moves.

 

[ukrob]

So you have accused two people of being the guards eldest son, and are now inferring that he would like to go to Gay Pride - have I got that right?

 

[tonyaran]

So the guard has struggled with the ramp, and yourself, getting off a train at Guide Bridge? Is that correct?

So 'a' guard has struggled. Not 'the' guard.

 

[Lampshade]

Eh? Then what is the point of the shorter ramp?

It's to provide stability for the longer ramp, otherwise it would pivot on the middle step and be unstable, more like a see-saw than a ramp.

Then why dont you bring him to Manchester tonight. I hear there is a Gay Pride festival on too.

Very mature :roll:

 

[jimrbrobinson]

Actually I said the DRIVER was my father - not the guard. But, yes, it was a joke!

Anyway, by the sound of it - the guard has many kids!

I'm gutted that I've got to go out now - and will come back too drunk to post (and I hope I don't try to!). I'll have a lot to read in the morning. LOL!

I'm waiting to find out if I'm one too - my Mam and Dad'll have some explaining to do then!!!!

 

[NRWUser]

So 'a' guard has struggled. Not 'the' guard.

Ok so a different guard struggled to get you off a train at guide bridge using a ramp. Can you tell more about what happened? Was it the same type of train that you couldn't board last Saturday?

 

[tonyaran]

To stop the longer ramp from bending so much.

So if you use them as you say so then it can be possible to disembark at Guide Bridge? If yes, then why did he refuse to carry me? There you go, you have totally ruined any chances of an argument the guard could have made.

 

[Geezertronic]

This is turning into a classic now. I do hope the media are reading this and decide the right thing to do is to turn on this TonyaRyan or whatever his real name is because he certainly deserves it

And whether Anvil is the guards son or not, he has as much right to post here as the rest of us. Priceless though - Anvil is your username so you must be the guards son

 

[Zoidberg]

Actually I said the DRIVER was my father - not the guard. But, yes, it was a joke!

Anyway, by the sound of it - the guard has many kids!

I'm gutted that I've got to go out now - and will come back too drunk to post (and I hope I don't try to!). I'll have a lot to read in the morning. LOL!

I will own up to being the grandson of a Station Inspector (Edinburgh Waverley - early '60s). I am not sure to what extent, if any, that helps.

 

[Lampshade]

So if you use them as you say so then it can be possible to disembark at Guide Bridge? If yes, then why did he refuse to carry me? There you go, you have totally ruined any chances of an argument the guard could have made.

URGH!!!!

Platform 1 at Guide Bridge cannot support the longer ramp as it (the platform) is too narrow, we have established this time and time again.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

So if you use them as you say so then it can be possible to disembark at Guide Bridge? If yes, then why did he refuse to carry me? There you go, you have totally ruined any chances of an argument the guard could have made.

Did I say that? No. Please don't try and change the meanings of posts. You asked about the operations of the two ramps generally, I answered generally. I never mentioned anything about Guide Bridge or the case in question.
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I will own up to being the grandson of a Station Inspector (Edinburgh Waverley - early '60s). I am not sure to what extent, if any, that helps.

I can provide my family tree on request?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I thought you said JonMorris was the guard's eldest son? In this post: http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=487917&postcount=359

Thats were i got 1 Feb 08 from, he actually quoted and replied Im not going top answer your questions...

 

[tonyaran]

Did I say that? No. Please don't try and change the meanings of posts. You asked about the operations of the two ramps generally, I answered generally. I never mentioned anything about Guide Bridge or the case in question.

So why could then two-ramp systm not be used at Guide Bridge for my journey?

 

[ukrob]

URGH!!!!

Platform 1 at Guide Bridge cannot support the longer ramp as it (the platform) is too narrow, we have established this time and time again.

Obviously with that background you are far too involved to be unbiased

 

[jimrbrobinson]

So if you use them as you say so then it can be possible to disembark at Guide Bridge? If yes, then why did he refuse to carry me? There you go, you have totally ruined any chances of an argument the guard could have made.

No because as has already been stated here and on the DS forum, the long ramp is too long for the platform at Guide Bridge on the side coming in from Manchester. The bottom of the ramp reaches too close a wall for you to safely exit the ramp at the bottom.

 

[sidmouth]

Mr k replies that he has used a similar train to Rose Hill, in response to repeated requests on whether he has used a 142 to Guide Bridge. Ergo he has not previously used such a train to GB (otherwise he would have said so).
I therefore assume the guard politely said he couldn't use that particular train, but that there would be one in 12min.
It therefore appears k took exception and started filming.
To be honest I would have reacted (as an reasonable person) exactly like the guard and walked away (particularly if the word please had been used with such inflection), so as to diffuse the situation.
I take exception to k playing the disabled discrimination card, and has inadvertently rolled back his cause.
Ps Mr k I am not a "railway man, but am just saddened by your antics.
Pps I am afraid I would now expect you to be prosecuted for filming on private property and subsequently publishing without written consent.
Ppps apologies to other posters if I have said what has been said / repeated what has been said before but just cannot believe K's arrogance and self righteousness.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Then why dont you bring him to Manchester tonight. I hear there is a Gay Pride festival on too.

I feel a PM to the Moderators coming on...

 

[ukrob]

So why could then two-ramp systm not be used at Guide Bridge for my journey?

Are you trolling or genuinely a bit thick? That has been answered time and time again, and you have the audacity to tell other people not to ask questions that have already been answered.