alex756024
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240 on its own
211 on its own
Will look out for the 6 car
211 on its own
Will look out for the 6 car
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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown
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Good evening
Observations Tuesday 30th July 2024.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield:
323215 323216
Four Oaks to Redditch
323211 solo
323240 solo
Observations Tuesday 30th July 2024.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield:
323215 323216
Four Oaks to Redditch
323211 solo
323240 solo
alex756024
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6 car and 2 x 3 car 323's today 240 and 211 on singles I believe and 216 coupled up in the double set, not sure on first set
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216 and 215 paired
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216 and 215 paired
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warwickshire
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Wednesday 31st July 2024 observations
Redditch to Four Oaks:
323211 solo
323240 solo.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323216 323215
Redditch to Four Oaks:
323211 solo
323240 solo.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323216 323215
silexa
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216 out solo today, feel like I haven’t had this one in a few days lol
alex756024
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215 out solo also
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222&240 paired on 2P15
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222&240 paired on 2P15
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warwickshire
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Observations Thursday 01st August 2024
Redditch to Four Oaks
323216 solo
323215 solo.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323222 323240.
Redditch to Four Oaks
323216 solo
323215 solo.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323222 323240.
Liam L
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The 4th ex WMT 323 has entered service with Northern today, 323219 makes it debut working between Liverpool and Wigan.
Also saw a comment on a Facebook post (323/730) that suggests 323214 is coming off lease with WMT next Friday.
Also saw a comment on a Facebook post (323/730) that suggests 323214 is coming off lease with WMT next Friday.
warwickshire
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Observations Friday 02nd August 2024.
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215
323216
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323222 323240.
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215
323216
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323222 323240.
ABB125
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211/222 just spotted as a pair on the Bromsgrove diagram
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Observations Saturday 03rd August 2024:
Bromsgrove to Lichfield :
323222 323211 till 1650pm to Bromsgrove at Birmingham New Street.
323222 after 1650 pm Solo onwards
Redditch to Four Oaks.
323216 solo
323211 after 1720 pm. Solo
323215 to 1720 pm Solo, then ecs to Soho for maintenance or repair.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield :
323222 323211 till 1650pm to Bromsgrove at Birmingham New Street.
323222 after 1650 pm Solo onwards
Redditch to Four Oaks.
323216 solo
323211 after 1720 pm. Solo
323215 to 1720 pm Solo, then ecs to Soho for maintenance or repair.
TheTallOne
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323216 on its own today (again).
Travelling on it, it's the 0927 Redditch to Litchfield Trent Valley service.
Travelling on it, it's the 0927 Redditch to Litchfield Trent Valley service.
TheTallOne
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And same train home, what are the chances of that.
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Observations Sunday 04th August
Lichfield Trent Valley to Redditch
323216 solo
323211 solo, till 1113 am, out of service Birmingham New Street, unit failure.
323222 from 1235 pm, Birmingham New Street to replace 323211, but on the booked diagram as per usual, as per booked.
Lichfield Trent Valley to Redditch
323216 solo
323211 solo, till 1113 am, out of service Birmingham New Street, unit failure.
323222 from 1235 pm, Birmingham New Street to replace 323211, but on the booked diagram as per usual, as per booked.
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Sundays it's Redditch to Lichfield only now, sadly the Bromsgroves are 730, two diagrams only and only do Bromsgrove to Birmingham New Street.
Liam L
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If all goes well, 323214 will be on the Bromsgrove circuit tomorrow according to post on 323/730 group
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Observations Monday 05th August 2024.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield:
323221 323240.
Four Oaks to Redditch
323222 solo.
323215 solo.
Bromsgrove to Lichfield:
323221 323240.
Four Oaks to Redditch
323222 solo.
323215 solo.
silexa
Member
222 solo on Four Oaks - Redditch this morning. Seen on the 07:43 off new street
Liam L
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It lasted a few hours, now back at Soho.
Not sure on what unit has stepped in to replace it
Can anyone help me please ?
I am making my first visit to the Midlands for many years tomorrow (7th August) and if possible would like to photo a 323 in their WM Orange colours. It seems they are very rare now, but could anyone tell me the best place to go from BHM to see them and does anyone have any up to date diagrams for them this week ?
Thanks !
Derek
Cumbria
I am making my first visit to the Midlands for many years tomorrow (7th August) and if possible would like to photo a 323 in their WM Orange colours. It seems they are very rare now, but could anyone tell me the best place to go from BHM to see them and does anyone have any up to date diagrams for them this week ?
Thanks !
Derek
Cumbria
Liam L
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Johnhayworth21
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Glad to see 214 back in service. I presume it will only be out for a day or two, as it is apparently going off lease later this week?
crosscity
Member
323's operate three out of the eleven Crosscity M-Sa diagrams, and these have remained the same since 22Jul. Two operate Four Oaks-Redditch and one Lichfield TV-Bromsgrove. The Redditch diagram repeats every 2h30m and the Bromsgrove every 3h.
I created a 'ready reckoner' for Kings Norton, which I shared on this thread and repeat here. It has never let me down. Note though, it's not an exact timetable - the real thing may be a minute or two out either way.
Wherever you decide to go use RTT, Traksy or Railcam, to find the headcode and see whether it is on the list.
I can't promise you won't get the special green Centro liveried unit (323221) but I don't think it's been out for a few days.
There are plenty of places to get shot's.
Hope you are successful.
warwickshire
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Observations Tuesday 06th August 2024.
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215 solo
323222 solo
Bromsgrove to Lichfield:
323211 323214, till 09am at Birmingham New Street, 323211 failure,
From 1206 at Birmingham New Street, 323240 323214 onwards.
323211 fails again, 3rd time in a week,
However, it speculation. or is it true as mentioned, is 323214 only here, to the end of this week??
Maybe 323214 can only work as a pair, but even so could be in a better condition than 323211??
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215 solo
323222 solo
Bromsgrove to Lichfield:
323211 323214, till 09am at Birmingham New Street, 323211 failure,
From 1206 at Birmingham New Street, 323240 323214 onwards.
323211 fails again, 3rd time in a week,
However, it speculation. or is it true as mentioned, is 323214 only here, to the end of this week??
Maybe 323214 can only work as a pair, but even so could be in a better condition than 323211??
ABB125
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An alternative to @crosscity 's table above is to look at the class 730 diagrams, then avoid them!
As far as I'm aware, the following list is correct. Heading north from Selly Oak in the morning, south from New Street in the evening.
xx23/xx53 departures in both directions are Bromsgrove trains, 3hour diagram as mentioned above (ie: 1623 from BHM is the same diagram as 1923), any other time is a Redditch diagram (2.5hrs)
Liam L
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It will be out in the afternoon, it's off to tyseley for tyre turning https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K17343/2024-08-07/detailed
TheTallOne
Member
221 was working yesterday early evening, saw it heading north towards Kings Norton.
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When I witnessed 323214 , with 323240, today Tuesday 06th August 2024, 323214 has lost its Soho depot labels on the side, plus it's name Wylde Green, still has side West Midlands Railways and logos on the side, however it's name Wylde Green and Soho lmd labels have been removed and gone. Since I last observed it on The Monday 08th July 2024, with the soho lmd depot stickers and Wylde Green name still applied when 323240 took it to Soho from Wolverton.
On another note 323240, must be the most reliable 323 on Wmr at the Moment
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