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West Coast Mk1s

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Also, I believe that WCRC Mark 1s now have retention tank toilets whereas their Mark 2s .

At least some of the ex cross country maroon ones do, I've been on them with Railway Touring Company and they certainly had retention toilets. Not to mention the ones they got from Rivera
 
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I presume passengers are no longer allowed to travel in the BCK, though, despite WCRC advertising a compartment coach on the Jacobite on its website
From what I’ve seen recently it shows on the website “Compartment currently unavailable” so it is there but just not available to buy
 

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At least some of the ex cross country maroon ones do, I've been on them with Railway Touring Company and they certainly had retention toilets. Not to mention the ones they got from Rivera
Correct, the Riviera fleet had them fitted at Knottingley.
 

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I believe the pre-existing WCR Mk. 2 fleet (PV and AC) had theirs fitted at Hamilton.
 

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The requirement for a Mk2 to be on the end of a Mk1 rake was removed quite a few years ago now when TPWS was introduced. This is because the risk of a head on collision was much reduced by TPWS
 
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The requirement for a Mk2 to be on the end of a Mk1 rake was removed quite a few years ago now when OTMR was introduced. This is because the risk of a head on collision was much reduced by OMTR.
OTMR doesn’t reduce the chance of a collision. It is a monitoring/data recording device. I assume you mean TPWS.
 

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The requirement for a Mk2 to be on the end of a Mk1 rake was removed quite a few years ago now when OTMR was introduced. This is because the risk of a head on collision was much reduced by OMTR.
I'm pretty sure that OTMR does nothing to directly prevent collisions, it exists to investigate afterwards. Is it TPWS you're thinking of?
 

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OTMR doesn’t reduce the chance of a collision. It is a monitoring/data recording device. I assume you mean TPWS.
Yes that’s a typo on my part I did indeed mean TPWS not sure why I typed OTMR!!!

Edited to the correct system lol!!!
 

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Do we know if WCR have started doing anything with the MK1s yet? Or are we in for another year or so of watching several boiler certificates tick down?

(At the end of the day, I’m just a guy on the internet so I don’t have the financial information or risk… but I wanna see some sort of variety in East Anglia soon that’s not just Black 5’s! Although nothing wrong with a Black 5)
 
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