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krus_aragon

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Now this Class 230 saga has gone on for as long as it has, it is deserving of a comical Welsh regional folk song written about it that would reflect matters, starting similar to the following:-

"Cosher Bailey had an engine,
It was always needing mending......"
Well I can't ignore an invitation like that, so here we go:

London Transport had some engines,
But their working life was ending,
New trains kept the punters happy,
While the old ones sought the scrap heap.

Did you ever see,
Did you ever see,
Did you ever see such a funny thing before?

All those engines parked in Ealing,
Adrian Shooter found appealing,
He could buy them for a bargain,
And put newer, greener bits in.

Did you ever see...

Vivarail paid cash and asked them:
Send the best ones to Long Marston,
While the techies went inspecting,
All the sales guys were prospecting.

Did you ever see...

Several parties came by asking,
Their electric lines were lacking,
So a new plan hit the easel,
Fit electric trains with Diesel.

Did you ever see...

Wales said goodbye to Arriva,
And then signed a deal with Viva,
Five trains built and sent to Wrexham,
Just as soon as someone checks 'em.

Did you ever see...

Viva started the construction,
Of this brand new form of traction,
But the schedule went to "Panic",
In light of the pandemic.

Did you ever see...

Viva's budget couldn't cut it,
And the company was busted,
Trains spent years stood at the factory,
Then were labelled "satisfactory"

Did you ever see...

When they sent them up to Wales,
There were endless lists of fails,
And according to their power,
They could break in half an hour.

Did you ever see...

These trains didn't like the hills 'cause,
Pollen spoiling up their filters,
Left their batteries overheating,
Lesser fitters would be beaten!

Did you ever see...

Now we've found the best solution,
Is to draft in extra traction,
Once the sun's gone to the west - our
Class 230s get siestas!

Did you ever see...
 

nwales58

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you could improve them by taking the diesel stuff out, fitting electric power collection and maybe a bit of storage ... ah, GWR have already had that idea. Maybe we need theirs.
 

childwallblues

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8H

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Only fair to point out that 230006 is bowling along fine today, so far, it’s the 197 that has lost time mucking about early on between Croes Newydd and Wrecsam :D
 

WirralLine

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Maybe they should have left it out if it was working happily

I had hoped they would see how it goes seems as that’s the purpose of the mods. But as @Philip Roberts said maybe they want to have it so some half days to make sure it’s running happily.
This would interfere with crew diagrams however as a new crew brings the new unit out from North depot, so not as straightforward as just keeping the unit out.
 

Lurcheroo

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This would interfere with crew diagrams however as a new crew brings the new unit out from North depot, so not as straightforward as just keeping the unit out.
Ahh right! Well that makes sense.
I assume, if they’re going to make it run a whole day, they will change the diagrams to make it work.
 

Peter Sarf

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I'm a bit lost with the 230 introduction but I assume TFW still plan to have the whole line 230s one day?
That was the plan and I think the modifications to 230006 are a (the) step in that direction.

All a bit forefront of technology really !.
 

Xenophon PCDGS

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That was the plan and I think the modifications to 230006 are a (the) step in that direction.

All a bit forefront of technology really !.
It certainly looks like the rail passengers on the Borderlands line are just seen as incidental to what appears to be the far more important operational Class 230 traction matters. Remind me what month and year it was when the Class 230 units were supposed to be fully operational in service.
 

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