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Was the Nelson - Higherford section always a subsidised service, going back to the pre-Ribble County days? I know there was some S21 funding for evening journeys thanks to the housing developments - though the funding for which ran out before the houses were even built.

Pretty sure it used to be commercial. Barrowford is more a town than a village, and has a large college, so it is definitely a place you would think would have a commercial service. But there is basically no reason for anyone to go to Nelson these days. And the college has it's own dedicated buses (plus Barrowford has a college bus to Burnley, so the 2 won't get any traffic in that direction either)

I can't see the 2 lasting very long once Transdev give up the Nelson - Higherford section. It's the only direct link to a sizeable village, despite it being relatively close to Nelson. The 2 that remains basically follows the same route as a number of existing services that already link Burnley and Nelson.

Despite a coordinated timetable, and I believe through-tickets are available, passengers aren't really keen on connections!

The coordinated timetable is supposedly going to be with the LCC subsidised number 60, which takes a very round the houses route into Burnley. The remaining part of the 2 is a reasonable distance from the Mainline route, but also what a map doesn't show is how steep the hill is in between.


Vision Bus seem to be the big winners (again) in Lancashire's latest round of tenders, also picking up the 65,66,67 and 69 Pendleside routes from Preston Bus, plus the Ormskirk town circulars and a new route serving some villages between Preston and Chorley.
 
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Not a good day as the bus tried to turn right, hit the wall and was left stuck with a wheel in the air due to the curvature of the road.
 

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I'm 95% sure it isn't anywhere on the route of the 24 ... there was a bus yesterday that ran to Pateley Bridge early-afternoon, arrived at the terminus as usual, and then doesn't appear to have showed up at the high school for the return journey, but I can't find anywhere it could plausibly have gone that looks like that ... let's see if anyone else's detective work is better than mine!
 

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I'm 95% sure it isn't anywhere on the route of the 24 ... there was a bus yesterday that ran to Pateley Bridge early-afternoon, arrived at the terminus as usual, and then doesn't appear to have showed up at the high school for the return journey, but I can't find anywhere it could plausibly have gone that looks like that ... let's see if anyone else's detective work is better than mine!
Moreover, the bus in question (1002_ which didn't operate the return journey hasn't tracked since, which may or may not be a coincidence.
 
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I'm 95% sure it isn't anywhere on the route of the 24 ... there was a bus yesterday that ran to Pateley Bridge early-afternoon, arrived at the terminus as usual, and then doesn't appear to have showed up at the high school for the return journey, but I can't find anywhere it could plausibly have gone that looks like that ... let's see if anyone else's detective work is better than mine!
Looking at Google street view, it appears to be a crossroads on the B6265 heading towards Grassington, where a narrow lane crosses at an angle.
I can only assume that the driver has set off the wrong way from Pateley Bridge and attempted to turn round by reversing into the side road.
The tree and the dormer window on the second block appear to match;
 

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Looking at Google street view, it appears to be a crossroads on the B6265 heading towards Grassington, where a narrow lane crosses at an angle.
I can only assume that the driver has set off the wrong way from Pateley Bridge and attempted to turn round by reversing into the side road.
The tree and the dormer window on the second block appear to match;
Yes, I think you're right. I can't imagine they would have driven up that lane so yes, my guess would be that they missed the right turn by the petrol station to go down to the school and were trying to turn round there ... but equally it should have been blindingly obvious that they could never make the turn in a bus that size. Although there are no actual turnings for a while after that, ironically they wouldn't have needed to go very far at all before there were a couple of entrances that would have been much better prospects for turning round in.
 

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The reverse at Birstwith on the 24 route can be tight with a poorly parked vehicl which possibly made the drver think it was possible. Comments on facebook imply that 1002 not only grounded but hit the wall.
 

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The reverse at Birstwith on the 24 route can be tight with a poorly parked vehicl which possibly made the drver think it was possible. Comments on facebook imply that 1002 not only grounded but hit the wall.
It wasn't anywhere near Birstwith – the driver seems to have gone the wrong while out of service, while going from the normal terminus to the high school where the afternoon journey starts.
 

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It wasn't anywhere near Birstwith – the driver seems to have gone the wrong while out of service, while going from the normal terminus to the high school where the afternoon journey starts.
They didn’t say it was.
 

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It wasn't anywhere near Birstwith – the driver seems to have gone the wrong while out of service, while going from the normal terminus to the high school where the afternoon journey starts.
i know, I was making a comparison. They really need for find a few more EVs or hybrids from somewhere as the schoolbus Scanias are frequently on for Harrogate locals given also the "old" eCitrao MB21BUS has not worked since Feb 13, and the two B7RLEs will not last much longer.
 

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I'm more concerned as to how he managed to miss the turn for the road to the school, it's just so obvious when you get there as there is a massive petrol station right next to it just past a bridge, 2 landmarks for the price of one there. it's not like it's in an area where everything looks the same for miles around. Don't forget he would have been driving school kids home on a set route that he must get right otherwise a load of lost school kids in the middle of nowhere won't go down so well in the press lol.
 

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I'm more concerned as to how he managed to miss the turn for the road to the school, it's just so obvious when you get there as there is a massive petrol station right next to it just past a bridge, 2 landmarks for the price of one there. it's not like it's in an area where everything looks the same for miles around. Don't forget he would have been driving school kids home on a set route that he must get right otherwise a load of lost school kids in the middle of nowhere won't go down so well in the press lol.
Maybe their was a reason why the right turn could not be made - a minor accident for example, and someone helpfully directing traffic "around the back" which one look at the road around the back would have been ruled out by the driver hence the attempot to to turn round at the next junction
Doesn't seem tob be any press coverage - the local pay to read garbage press that makes a stupid social media headline out of everythig hasn't posted anything in an attempt to gain subscribers.
Plenty of school kids walk from the school into Pateley Bridge, it is paved and lit pass housing and not in the middle of nowhere, so their would have been a few more doing that and catching the next 24 if they had not been picked up in the meantime.
 

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I was in Harrogate last week - not bus related - but observed some things around and about. First day there was an E400 electric broken down near our hotel, an hour later it was taken away on suspended tow and hasn't been out since. It hadn't been out for 2 or 3 hours and was only a couple of stops short of the bus station so I can't believe it had simply run out of juice. Are these electric buses quite temperamental? I was surprised to see several Star Bus Scanias and a B7RLE on local services and also diesel Citaros on the 36 a couple of times, plus the ADL demonstrator. We also went to Pateley Bridge and saw a Citaro there, there are road works and some of the turnings are quite tight but I am not sure where 1002 came to grief.
 

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I was in Harrogate last week - not bus related - but observed some things around and about. First day there was an E400 electric broken down near our hotel, an hour later it was taken away on suspended tow and hasn't been out since. It hadn't been out for 2 or 3 hours and was only a couple of stops short of the bus station so I can't believe it had simply run out of juice. Are these electric buses quite temperamental? I was surprised to see several Star Bus Scanias and a B7RLE on local services and also diesel Citaros on the 36 a couple of times, plus the ADL demonstrator. We also went to Pateley Bridge and saw a Citaro there, there are road works and some of the turnings are quite tight but I am not sure where 1002 came to grief.
Hmmm.... Are we expecting a trip report soon @RELL6L?
 

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On Sunday, bustimes was showing eCitaro 1024 tracking on the 864 to Malham in the morning, but after lunch it was swapped for a Strata as usual – anyone know if this was (a) genuine, and (2) planned? (I'm thinking there, was the intention to run the eCitaro all day but then they decided against it – or if there was a problem with the Strata in the morning and so they put the eCitaro on as a substitute). I know full size buses can run to Malham, but I was surprised that they would want to!
 

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I was in Harrogate last week - not bus related - but observed some things around and about. First day there was an E400 electric broken down near our hotel, an hour later it was taken away on suspended tow and hasn't been out since. It hadn't been out for 2 or 3 hours and was only a couple of stops short of the bus station so I can't believe it had simply run out of juice. Are these electric buses quite temperamental? I was surprised to see several Star Bus Scanias and a B7RLE on local services and also diesel Citaros on the 36 a couple of times, plus the ADL demonstrator. We also went to Pateley Bridge and saw a Citaro there, there are road works and some of the turnings are quite tight but I am not sure where 1002 came to grief.
it's fairly common for buses to break down sometimes, electric vehicles included. This doesn't seem out of the ordinary in any way.
 

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I was in Harrogate last week - not bus related - but observed some things around and about. First day there was an E400 electric broken down near our hotel, an hour later it was taken away on suspended tow and hasn't been out since. It hadn't been out for 2 or 3 hours and was only a couple of stops short of the bus station so I can't believe it had simply run out of juice. Are these electric buses quite temperamental? I was surprised to see several Star Bus Scanias and a B7RLE on local services and also diesel Citaros on the 36 a couple of times, plus the ADL demonstrator. We also went to Pateley Bridge and saw a Citaro there, there are road works and some of the turnings are quite tight but I am not sure where 1002 came to grief.
The hybrids are used on the 36 if there are not enough 400Es either through availability issues or delays due to roadworks
Scanias equally are used on the Harrogate local if there are not enough other vehicles available.
The B7RLES were meant to be used on the 21 and 727H services but recently have been used on Harrogate locals instead.
1002 came to grief incorrectly off route on the B6265 west of Pateley Bridge.
 

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On Sunday, bustimes was showing eCitaro 1024 tracking on the 864 to Malham in the morning, but after lunch it was swapped for a Strata as usual – anyone know if this was (a) genuine, and (2) planned? (I'm thinking there, was the intention to run the eCitaro all day but then they decided against it – or if there was a problem with the Strata in the morning and so they put the eCitaro on as a substitute). I know full size buses can run to Malham, but I was surprised that they would want to!
Buses appeared to have been swapped at Malham so I'd be surprised if that's where they switched buses, Skipton would be much more logical. I feel that if it were real there would've been some buzz from DalesBus about it, like when First sent a Yutong to Grassington a few years ago.
I was in Harrogate last week - not bus related - but observed some things around and about. First day there was an E400 electric broken down near our hotel, an hour later it was taken away on suspended tow and hasn't been out since. It hadn't been out for 2 or 3 hours and was only a couple of stops short of the bus station so I can't believe it had simply run out of juice. Are these electric buses quite temperamental? I was surprised to see several Star Bus Scanias and a B7RLE on local services and also diesel Citaros on the 36 a couple of times, plus the ADL demonstrator. We also went to Pateley Bridge and saw a Citaro there, there are road works and some of the turnings are quite tight but I am not sure where 1002 came to grief.
Looks like you're talking about 2207 as it's the only E400 EV to have not tracked recently.

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Looks like you're talking about 2207 as it's the only E400 EV to have not tracked recently.
Neither 2207 or 2218 have tracked since March 3. 2217 started tracking this afternoon so, if thats not a ticket machine error, its accident damage has been repaired and probably 95 will be returned to ADL.
 

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Neither 2207 or 2218 have tracked since March 3. 2217 started tracking this afternoon so, if thats not a ticket machine error, its accident damage has been repaired and probably 95 will be returned to ADL.
2207 stopped tracking outside Cairn Hotel which would match with what @RELL6L said.

95 is tracking on the 1 today. 1002 seems to have made a few journeys yesterday.
 
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I've noticed that Transdev has posted timetables for the 825, 875, M4 & M31 with the respective PDFs. These PDFs are from 2025 (as noted in the bottom corner of the timetables) so don't note that M31 will now start from Langley Gate instead of Water End and follow a different route into York via Bootham instead of Water End. It also notes that the 825 doesn't accept Concessionary Passes, which as of 2026 Is no longer true. The 875 & M4 timetables seem to be the same for 2025 and 2026, so the only thing wrong is the start date in the bottom left corner.
 
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The B3 'Brontebus' route from Keighley to Hebden Bridge via Haworth is currently unable to serve Hebden Bridge station due to extensive gas main renewals in Station Road. The local TLC-operated bus routes use vehicles that are small enough to negotiate the temporary chicanes, but the B3s are diverted from Albert Street via New Road to terminate in Hope Street....which is their normal town centre stop for the return journey to Keighley.

Intending rail passengers are therefore left with a 6-10 minutes walk, depending on age, agility and the amount of luggage in tow
 

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