TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

[jonhewes]

They look amazing. Does anyone know whether these might see use occasional use on freight like the Chiltern ones do?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

They look amazing. Does anyone know whether these might see use occasional use on freight like the Chiltern ones do?

Certainly the ones that aren't getting TPE livery will be available for other work, so in theory one of the TPE ones could find itself in that situation. I think in the past some companies have had agreements with locomotive providers which were designed to prevent their corporate image being "degraded" by appearing on binliner trains and the like.

 

[edwin_m]

Brutus???!!

Are the coaches worried about being stabbed in the back when in "push" mode?

 

[hexagon789]

Are the coaches worried about being stabbed in the back when in "push" mode?

"Et tu Brute?"

 

[Tam]

Some more from yesterday...



Edit: Looks like a scoop/cow-catcher thing has been removed at both ends.

 

[pt_mad]

I may have missed some posts. But what will the loco numbers be for the (14?) Liveried class 68s?

Looks like the one in the photos is called Tireless. But no loco number?

 

[43096]

I may have missed some posts. But what will the loco numbers be for the (14?) Liveried class 68s?

68019-032, with DRS providing 68033/034 as backup, but remaining in DRS livery.

 

[Bungle965]

Some more photos from today at Velim.
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In that second picture should that hose be hanging down?
Sam

 

[Tam]

Looks like the one in the photos is called Tireless. But no loco number?

68021 (from other photos).

 

[Tam]

In that second picture should that hose be hanging down?
Sam

Also visible dangling in the first video (both left side hoses). I just take photos, I don't do hoses

 

[Bertie the bus]

I’m confused why people have suddenly become fascinated with the loco’s names when they were named over 2 years ago.

They look amazing. Does anyone know whether these might see use occasional use on freight like the Chiltern ones do?

Almost certainly at some point. The ScotRail pair also occasionally work freights, or departmentals in their case. Usually as shakedown runs after exams or repairs.

 

[hexagon789]

Some more from yesterday...

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Edit: Looks like a scoop/cow-catcher thing has been removed at both ends.

Could be wrong but it looks as though the lifeguard has been removed?

 

[driver9000]

In that second picture should that hose be hanging down?
Sam

No it shouldn't but it looks like it has either fallen off its clip or not been put back. It's the main reservoir pipe (you can tell by the yellow end, the brake pipe is red). I guess the loco has been uncoupled from the train.

 

[driver9000]

Could be wrong but it looks as though the lifeguard has been removed?

Taken off for transport by road. No idea why they haven't been put back on.

 

[hexagon789]

Taken off for transport by road. No idea why they haven't been put back on.

Makes sense to take it off for that but hopefully they remember to re-fit them!

 

[Bungle965]

No it shouldn't but it looks like it has either fallen off its clip or not been put back. It's the main reservoir pipe (you can tell by the yellow end, the brake pipe is red). I guess the loco has been uncoupled from the train.

Ah thanks for that info!
Sam

 

[Tam]

No it shouldn't but it looks like it has either fallen off its clip or not been put back. It's the main reservoir pipe (you can tell by the yellow end, the brake pipe is red). I guess the loco has been uncoupled from the train.

Actually, the loco is still coupled and moving in the photo in question (now that I have identified the correct photo). It can also be seen dangling in the first video at 00:54.

 

[sprinterguy]

Looks like the one in the photos is called Tireless. But no loco number?

The numbers are in white in front of the cab door at both ends.

 

[pt_mad]

68019-032, with DRS providing 68033/034 as backup, but remaining in DRS livery.

Are they in TPE livery already or are they being changed from previous DRS livery?

 

[rebmcr]

I wonder what the destination displays on 68033 & 68034 will show when not used with a rake of Mk5's?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I wonder what the destination displays on 68033 & 68034 will show when not used with a rake of Mk5's?

Presumably they can just be switched off?

Or maybe we'll see the return of headcode displays?

 

[rebmcr]

I wonder what the destination displays on 68033 & 68034 will show when not used with a rake of Mk5's?

Presumably they can just be switched off?

Or maybe we'll see the return of headcode displays?

"No signal, check cable between loco and stock."

 

[hexagon789]

Presumably they can just be switched off?

Or maybe we'll see the return of headcode displays?

0000 perhaps? With one slightly out of line

 

[fowler9]

I'm actually really excited about this, might get me out bashing more. Ha ha. I don't have the time or money to go after the loco hauled trains in other areas on a regular basis alas.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

That train looks more like a multiple unit - I wonder why.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

That train looks more like a multiple unit - I wonder why.

In theory they'll operate fairly similar to how MUs do. Although as all the stuff that makes it go is in one place, the locos will be swapped out more frequently. Pretty similar to how I imagine the Mk4 sets and Norwich LHCS operates.

 

[jopsuk]

That train looks more like a multiple unit - I wonder why.

Because it's the first purpose-built driving trailer with passenger accomodation for locomotive powered trains in this country.

Operating loco-hauled trains as effectively MUs has been going on for a long time. The Southern Railway especially allocated most of its coaching stock into sets of two to eight coaches that could be combined into full trains, with a pool of loose coaches to strengthen them- excellent posts can be found here. That practice was later revived with the southern region TC units- converted from "loose" stock but now with driving cabs at the end, looking (funnily enough) just like the EMUs that they worked with.
The Edinburgh-Glasgow 47 operated sets used converted passenger vehicles (Mark 2 Brake Standard Opens- if there had been more than three Mark 3 BFO or new build had been allowed then I'm sure that's what they would have used instead) so obviously still looked like "traditional" coaching stock, but were working as mainly fixed formations.
That continued with the west coast mark 3 DVT set, but this time the driving cars were specially built and looked much more like locomotives, helped by not carrying passengers. That continued with the Mark 4 sets, designed as a whole but with a DVT that was deliberately designed to look like a Class 91. These definitely operate in fixed formations unless there are technical issues.

And here we've got a passenger carrying driving trailer, of a design not unrelated to a new range of EMUs and DMUs that will be operating in the same area. So of course it looks like an MU

 

[BMIFlyer]

"No signal, check cable between loco and stock."

Or, if switched off (as is current on the modified loco's) then it won't show anything

 

[Domh245]

Autumn start planned, so that'll be November 31st 30th then! :P

Something else interesting I noticed is that the coaches will have 5 digit long numbers instead of the 6 digits that we've seen on multiple units since the 387s

 

[eastwestdivide]

On TV this morning, Look North (Yorks), there was a mention of these new trains, with a brief clip of the train running on the test track and a quick interview with a conductor, who said the train had that new smell!