Theft from the Tesco Train....

[DaveNewcastle]

There's a long established tradition of a certain level of semi-institutionalised crime in some of the outer northern and southern reaches of Glasgow. But it is remarkable that another internet forum dedicated to the built environment across our diverse globe has a thread called:
The 'not in any way suspicious' buildings gutted by fire thread
it seems that Glasgow still has a special status!

Some of the most beautiful buildings in that city have been featured on that site, including the magnificent 'Colliseum' right next to the WCML as it crosses the Clyde on the eastern side; it was still there a year ago, and appears in many rail enthusiasts' pictures, but has now been lost.

Have you seen Glasgow Zoo lately ??

No, but I knew (and travveled on) a bus route which, in its darkest times, experienced a stabbing on a weekend night at a rate of more than one a week. Who would work such services in 2011 ? Perhaps some private operator but surely no nation-wide operator employing Union members?

 

[CarterUSM]

Beautiful building right enough Dave. Sore one for Glasgow losing that. Though the 'greek Thomson' building on union street is finally getting a much needed refurbishment.

 

[90019]

When travelling on the A14/A1 at night I've often seen lorries parked up in laybys with their back doors open, presumably for similar reasons?

It's to show that there isn't anything inside, so people don't cut the curtains to have a look.

 

[Lawman]

Will the extension lead extend into First Class so I can nab the free 'leccy?

mind not to "fare evade" now!!!!
don't want u spilling your free refreshments on yer new telly!!!!

 

[tbtc]

mind not to "fare evade" now!!!!
don't want u spilling your free refreshments on yer new telly!!!!

Aye - I'd have to sue the TOC if my "free" cup of coffee ruined my nice new telly...

 

[MCR247]

Would I be alright to nip up for a chat with you in FC?

 

[me123]

It's to show that there isn't anything inside, so people don't cut the curtains to have a look.

An interesting strategy. Clearly then, if a lorry were to stop and not open its doors, it would be obvious that there was something inside that's worthwhile stealing. As a result, from the criminal's point of view, there's less chance that any attempt to rob the lorry would be a futile effort, and such a target is therefore made more attractive by employing this tactic.

 

[Crossover]

An interesting strategy. Clearly then, if a lorry were to stop and not open its doors, it would be obvious that there was something inside that's worthwhile stealing. As a result, from the criminal's point of view, there's less chance that any attempt to rob the lorry would be a futile effort, and such a target is therefore made more attractive by employing this tactic.

Sorry to continue this slightly off topic conversation - but its a point I have thought...you get a siding (sorry, layby...) that has say 4 40-footers in it...3 have their doors open, the other doesn't...gotta feel sorry for the driver that doesn't!

I think there are some companies though who don't allow this officially (such as Stobarts I believe)

 

[Mr Spock]

I think there are some companies though who don't allow this officially (such as Stobarts I believe)

Glad you said officially as there are plenty of Stobarts in lay-bys in my area that have their doots open.

 

[kylemore]

Beautiful building right enough Dave. Sore one for Glasgow losing that. Though the 'greek Thomson' building on union street is finally getting a much needed refurbishment.

Sorry this ones still very much at risk I'm afraid. Agree that Glasgow's record on this is atrocious, idiots of councillors who would have happily demolished everything Charles Rennie MacIntosh built even in the 1970s!

 

[DaveNewcastle]

Sorry this ones still very much at risk I'm afraid. Agree that Glasgow's record on this is atrocious . . .

Agreed. Its future is far from certain, and some of the proposals for redeveloping it are atrocious.
(For the benefit of everyone else, this building, the Egyptian Halls designed by Alexander Greek Thomson forms the east side of Glasgow's Central Station).
His highly visible and extraordinaryl church on Caledonia St in the Gorbals, close to the WCML is also under threat.
So its not just opportunist thieves that commit serious crimes in the Glasgow region but professionals too!

 

[route101]

plenty of stobarts lorries do this at the college milton idustrial estate in east kilbride . I see it a lot more in europe tho

 

[142094]

Lorry drivers often leave their trailer doors open when parked up on purpose if they do not have a load onboard as potential thieves are able to take a peek inside without slashing the curtains.

Also thought they did that to show that to deter illegals as well (around the ports anyway).

 

[Geezertronic]

Also thought they did that to show that to deter illegals as well (around the ports anyway).

From what I understand (and they also mentioned this in the Eddie Stobart program that has been on recently), the drivers don't like stopping in or around Calais for that very reason as well as illegals also hiding under the trailer mechanics.

 

[142094]

From what I understand (and they also mentioned this in the Eddie Stobart program that has been on recently), the drivers don't like stopping in or around Calais for that very reason as well as illegals also hiding under the trailer mechanics.

Think it was back in 2002 or around then, was travelling back to Dover from a trip around the Battlefields and stopped off at a service station somewhere in Calais for fuel (on a coach). Next stop was at a service station back over in England, came out after having something to eat to see the police leading two illegals into a van - unbeknown to us they had been in the luggage compartment since that stop in Calais.

 

[1across]

Tesco train has used metal containers for months. When did theft occur?

 

[northofthesand]

Remember working for Clarke's a few years back and a tractor unit turning up at the warehouse through the night and making off with a trailer full of shoes,If i remember right it was found in the Bolton area,Could just imagine Bolton market awash with clarkes shoes the week after and everyone in the area with a nice new pair

 

[Dolive22]

I don't remember the accident report for the ford train mentioning the train being stopped by thieves, or reaching a firm conclusion about where the theft occurred. Should I re-read the report?

 

[GearJammer]

Like you say truckers leave back doors open over night so that people can see there's nothing in them to steal, occasionally you'll also see the doors open on loads that just aren't worth stealing, i do it sometimes when hauling bails of waste paper.

I did hear a story once of a driver leaving his back doors open so all could see that his trailer was empty....... only for the local copper to go banging on his door at some stupid hour of the morning to ask if he knew his back doors were open and no load on the trailer!!!!!!

 

[Old Timer]

I don't remember the accident report for the ford train mentioning the train being stopped by thieves, or reaching a firm conclusion about where the theft occurred. Should I re-read the report?

The report concluded as I recall that there was a high probability that the train had been interfered with en-route to Willesden whilst travelling across the North London lines.

The forward Guard claimed that because the train was on the Down Goods line he did not examine it before departure as required, because "it was not safe to do so". I will refrain from comment as to the fact that Guards before him and in the years subsequent did not find this a problem.

As the train travelled north along the Down Slow, the gearbox in its crate slid across the wagon floor, and as the train entered Bushey Curve it fell out and into the Up Fast.

 

[Lawman]

I once heard a story from an old cop who used to work his beat next to the Ravenscraig steel plant in Motherwell.

The story goes, thieves had constructed a small rail bogey, would push it up to the coal trains that were stabled at Ravenscraig, nick the coal, then go round the doors selling it a knock down price..............In those days everyhouse had a coal fire!!!

The local authority then having been granted money from the government, wanted to upgrade residents houses with gas central heating...........this idea went down quicker than the Titanic....................Every resident in this scheme refused, as they were getting there coal for next to nothing....................eventualy, Ravenscraig closed down, no more cheap coal, enter the heating engineers!!!!!!!!
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Tesco train has used metal containers for months. When did theft occur?

From memory, it was possibly three months ago!!

At the time of the offence, local press said that a Network Rail/BTP helicopter was drafted in to monitor the journey!!

 

[Dolive22]

The report concluded as I recall that there was a high probability that the train had been interfered with en-route to Willesden whilst travelling across the North London lines.

The forward Guard claimed that because the train was on the Down Goods line he did not examine it before departure as required, because "it was not safe to do so". I will refrain from comment as to the fact that Guards before him and in the years subsequent did not find this a problem.

As the train travelled north along the Down Slow, the gearbox in its crate slid across the wagon floor, and as the train entered Bushey Curve it fell out and into the Up Fast.

I thought it reckoned it was while they were stopped in sidings but I'll go back and check sometime.