The Transport Game (UK)

[ValleyLines142]

I thought this game was meant to be a new start after the previous game got too petty...

Agreed.

Anyway we walk to Broadstairs Pierremont Hall, catching the Stagecoach East Kent route 9 to Sturry Rail Station, leaving at 0920, and arriving at 1013 on a Saturday morning.

We then enter the station and board 2W34, the 1058 Southeastern service to London Bridge, arriving there at 1243 on Saturday afternoon.

 

[higthomas]

From where we take the Northern Line to King's Cross St.Pancras Underground Station arriving at about 1300 on a Saturday afternoon.
(No specific times available).

 

[ValleyLines142]

We then exit the station and board the 1322 London United service 10 to Hyde Park Corner (Knightsbridge), arriving there at 1407 on Saturday afternoon.

 

[higthomas]

We the catch the Go-Ahead London route 22 service to Putney Common, Spencer Arms, departing at 1411 and arriving at 1501 on a Saturday Afternoon.

 

[Class20]

I thought this game was meant to be a new start after the previous game got too petty...

I'm not being petty, I'm point out the rules of the game. Whats the point of having rules if you don't bother following them.

I've had enough of the game anyway. Its alot of work for very little outcome and the attitude of some people towards the game is starting to get tiresome. I hope the game continues for the benefit of those who do enjoy it. For me, I bid you all goodnight.

 

[ValleyLines142]

We the catch the Go-Ahead London route 22 service to Putney Common, Spencer Arms, departing at 1411 and arriving at 1501 on a Saturday Afternoon.

We then return into the heart of the city on the 1512 Go-Ahead London service 22 to Piccadilly Circus, arriving there at 1610 on Saturday afternoon.

I'm not being petty, I'm point out the rules of the game. Whats the point of having rules if you don't bother following them.

I agree, and I also think it's good to have rules, but Kings Cross and St Pancras are less than 0.5 miles apart.

I've had enough of the game anyway. Its alot of work for very little outcome and the attitude of some people towards the game is starting to get tiresome. I hope the game continues for the benefit of those who do enjoy it. For me, I bid you all goodnight.

A tad extreme, I very nearly gave up on this game too but I had faith. You have to admit it has been MUCH better than the last round. I don't see anyone who has an attitude either.

However, it is entirely your decision and I respect that. I do hope you return.

 

[dzug2]

From where we take the Northern Line to King's Cross St.Pancras Underground Station arriving at about 1300 on a Saturday afternoon.
(No specific times available).

The TfL journey planner will give you specific times
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I agree, and I also think it's good to have rules, but Kings Cross and St Pancras are less than 0.5 miles apart.

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I don't think that has been challenged - it was getting from Parkside in Cambridge to the rail station that caused the issue
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We take the 1619 Metroline bus to Kensal Rise station, arriving at 1702 Saturday afternoon

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We enter the railway station and board the 1721 LO service to Richmond that arrives at 1746 on Saturday afternoon.

 

[Class20]

I agree, and I also think it's good to have rules, but Kings Cross and St Pancras are less than 0.5 miles apart.

You're not understanding the rule I quoted “You may not walk between stations of the same transport mode”. You can't walk between two different railway stations or bus stops, only between different transport modes i.e from a railway station to a bus stop. I would class Kings Cross and St Pancras to be two different stations so walking between them is an invalid move.

I don't think that has been challenged - it was getting from Parkside in Cambridge to the rail station that caused the issue

I hadn't noticed the walk between Parkside and Cambridge railway station, its a move of 0.9 miles which is the only rule it breaks. Another forum member made a similar move on the old game, they walked from Drummer Street bus station to Cambridge railway station. It was my objection to the distance involved in the walk (and the numerous other journey options available at the bus station which had been ignored) that tightened the rules on walking on the old game.

We enter the railway station and board the 1721 LO service to Richmond that arrives at 1746 on Saturday afternoon.

I'll post a move just to keep the game going.

We make our way over the main line platforms to board the 17:52 South West Trains service to Clapham Junction, arriving at 18:15 Saturday evening.

 

[ValleyLines142]

You're not understanding the rule I quoted “You may not walk between stations of the same transport mode”. You can't walk between two different railway stations or bus stops, only between different transport modes i.e from a railway station to a bus stop. I would class Kings Cross and St Pancras to be two different stations so walking between them is an invalid move.

Sorry, I must have glanced past your post by mistake. A fair point you make, however for the purpose of not confusing matters it is probably best to avoid it just this once and I will certainly bear it mind for the next time. The last thing I want is for tension to arise between members.

We make our way over the main line platforms to board the 17:52 South West Trains service to Clapham Junction, arriving at 18:15 Saturday evening.

Our next journey involves boarding Southern's 2R02, which is the 1842 service to Sutton, arriving there at 1916 on Saturday evening.

 

[OxtedL]

You're not understanding the rule I quoted “You may not walk between stations of the same transport mode”. You can't walk between two different railway stations or bus stops, only between different transport modes i.e from a railway station to a bus stop. I would class Kings Cross and St Pancras to be two different stations so walking between them is an invalid move.

I see what you mean. I think this rule slipped past the re-writing process - as everyone else seems to agree unanimously that it doesn't really make any sense as a rule in the new game I have struck it out in the original post for now. I will ask the Quizmasters to discuss a couple of bits of rewording.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Our next journey involves boarding Southern's 2R02, which is the 1842 service to Sutton, arriving there at 1916 on Saturday evening.

Heading away from this area, we board the 1937 FCC service to Luton that arrives at 2129 on Saturday evening.

 

[ValleyLines142]

We then continue northwards with 1D81, the 2231 East Midlands Trains service to Nottingham, arriving there at 0038 in the early hours of Sunday morning.

 

[Class20]

Sorry, I must have glanced past your post by mistake. A fair point you make, however for the purpose of not confusing matters it is probably best to avoid it just this once and I will certainly bear it mind for the next time. The last thing I want is for tension to arise between members.

It wasn't my intention to have the game moved back to Kings Cross, not since we've moved on so much. I just wanted to make you aware of the rule and for you to acknowledge it as you weren’t quite getting it. I can say you have understood it now though

I see what you mean. I think this rule slipped past the re-writing process - as everyone else seems to agree unanimously that it doesn't really make any sense as a rule in the new game I have struck it out in the original post for now. I will ask the Quizmasters to discuss a couple of bits of rewording.

The rule does make sense, it just needs some adjustment. I think walking between railway stations should remain invalid, there's always a train at every station even if it is an infrequent service. Walking between different transport modes (railway station to bus stop for example) is fine as there is a maximum walking distance set in the rules. Walking between bus stops is slightly more tricky to rule as there are a number of ways to do it. But its probably better if it remains ok so long as its within the set walking distance.

We then continue northwards with 1D81, the 2231 East Midlands Trains service to Nottingham, arriving there at 0038 in the early hours of Sunday morning.

There isn't must more we can do with the night, so we watch the hours pass by before boarding the 07:06 East Midlands Trains service to Leicester, arriving at 07:54 Sunday morning.

 

[Bodie]

Crikey, a lot has gone on in here since I was last on. Having read through the posts am I to take it that the quizmasters have removed the rule which did not allow for walking between the same mode of transport. ie Kings Cross and St Pancras???

I had totally forgotten about that ruling. Thanks to Class20 for bringing it to our attention. The reason I think I forgot about the rule is because almost everyone else had. Seems we changed the rule by ourselves without noticing. I would like the quizmasters to confirm whether or not rules if any are the be changed

Anyhow's on with the game!

We take 1C23 the 0826 East Midlands Trains service as far as Wellingborough where we arrive at 0902 on Sunday morning

 

[dzug2]

Hmm no Sunday local buses at the station and the bus station is too far to walk (0.9 miles). And lots of rail replacement buses in the journey planner.

So I assume we work on the 'normal' rail timetable and take the EMT at 1033, arriving at Long Eaton at 1127 Sunday morning

 

[ValleyLines142]

It wasn't my intention to have the game moved back to Kings Cross, not since we've moved on so much. I just wanted to make you aware of the rule and for you to acknowledge it as you weren’t quite getting it. I can say you have understood it now though

Oh no I understand you didn't intend to move it back, but I just pointing out that I must have missed that rule. I was 'getting' it, but I kind of wasn't, if that makes sense?!

I also personally thought that Kings Cross and St Pancras were classed as one big interchange. Although they are served by different operators etc, the underground station is of course Kings Cross St Pancras. This is where I got confused with the ruling that states that no transfer between two stations is allowed. Of course I understand this for something ridiculous like walking between say Leeds and York, but not in this example.

But also, if we were going on the basis that they are two seperate stations, then as they were less than 0.5 miles apart, I thought this was allowed, hence the confusion.

Hmm no Sunday local buses at the station and the bus station is too far to walk (0.9 miles). And lots of rail replacement buses in the journey planner.

So I assume we work on the 'normal' rail timetable and take the EMT at 1033, arriving at Long Eaton at 1127 Sunday morning

That is correct. We work on the 'normal' timetable, as per the rules:

So the game remains realistic, you should use the current timetable for the relevant day not including timetable variations for engineering works.

We then continue with 1F24, the 1231 East Midlands Trains service to Sheffield, arriving there at 1328 on Sunday afternoon.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Whilst not wishing to assume the mantle of "quiz ogre", can the matter of regularly-made apologies and explanations now cease, as it is becoming difficult for one such as I with somewhat aged eyesight to know where these explanations end and the clues for onward journeys start.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Whilst not wishing to assume the mantle of "quiz ogre", can the matter of regularly-made apologies and explanations now cease, as it is becoming difficult for one such as I with somewhat aged eyesight to know where these explanations end and the clues for onward journeys start.

This is where we are now Paul:

We then continue with 1F24, the 1231 East Midlands Trains service to Sheffield, arriving there at 1328 on Sunday afternoon

Hence why I always quote my comments, so that it is not confusing and one can distinguish posts.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We change TOC and board the 1411 First TPE service to Manchester Airport that arrives there at 1506 1528 on Sunday afternoon.

 

[CallySleeper]

We change TOC and board the 1411 First TPE service to Manchester Airport that arrives there at 1506 on Sunday afternoon.

This service arrives at Piccadilly at 1506. So where are we getting off?!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

This service arrives at Piccadilly at 1506. So where are we getting off?!

Arrival time at Manchester Airport now shown correctly in that posting with the 1506 time struck through.

 

[CallySleeper]

(I'm back!)

Browsing the airport departure boards and remembering we can't take even a domestic flight to Scotland, we board 1S75, the 16.00 TPE service to Oxenholme (the Lake District), arriving at 17.28 on Sunday afternoon

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Changing TOC, we next board the 1744 Virgin service to Warrington Bank Quay that arrives there at 1839 on Sunday evening.

 

[higthomas]

Unable to find a bus on a Sunday, we board the FTPE 1735 service to Kendal Railway Station, arriving at 1739 on a Sunday evening.
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Changing TOC, we next board the 1744 Virgin service to Warrington Bank Quay that arrives there at 1839 on Sunday evening.

We then board the ATW 1903 service to Manchester Picadilly, arriving at 1938 on a Sunday evening.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Noting the time connectional requrements at Manchester Piccadilly, we next board the 1956 ATW service to Frodsham that arrives there at 2041 on Sunday evening.

 

[Bodie]

We next board Arriva Train Wales' 1H91 2049 to Warrington Bank Quay which arrives at 2103 on Sunday evening

 

[higthomas]

We then board the 2116 Virgin service to Glasgow Central, arriving at 0002 on a Monday Morning.

 

[ValleyLines142]

We then let the hours pass before boarding the 0535 First Glasgow service 18 to East Kilbride (Bus Station), arriving there at 0616 on Monday morning.

 

[dzug2]

We just have time to catch the 904 Scottish Citylink service at 0625 to Motherwell railway station, arriving at 0654 Monday morning