TfW 175 shortages

[Jez]

I doubt that a full explanation will be provided to the public. As Western 52 says it will be confidential.

But reading between the lines it seems the depot struggles to look after both the 197 and 175s I guess if they need doing every 3 weeks and they haven't capacity to do that then sets will be sitting in rhe sidings more than they will be in service. How long this will be able to continue for is anyone guess.

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Despite the shortage of 175s they appear to have found a 6 car 158 for the 1032 Swansea to Manchester today, splitting at Crewe I think.

Realtime Trains | 1W56 1032 Swansea to Manchester Piccadilly | 19/03/2023

Real-time train running information for 1W56 1032 departure from Swansea to Manchester Piccadilly on 19/03/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Sundays often see some unusual formations but I don't think I've seen a 6 car 158 on the Marches before

 

[Anonymous10]

I doubt that a full explanation will be provided to the public. As Western 52 says it will be confidential.

But reading between the lines it seems the depot struggles to look after both the 197 and 175s I guess if they need doing every 3 weeks and they haven't capacity to do that then sets will be sitting in rhe sidings more than they will be in service. How long this will be able to continue for is anyone guess.

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Sundays often see some unusual formations but I don't think I've seen a 6 car 158 on the Marches before

Likely to help with the lack of services by gwr xc ect

 

[Caaardiff]

A lot of cancellations due to lack of train crew today so probably a consolidation of capacity.

 

[Steveswan10]

Just seen it pass Leominster all 6 carriages looked fairly busy

 

[Express380]

A move from Chester to Longsight has ran about an hour or so ago could this be 175s? And anyone know what this move might be for?

 

[Jez]

Just seen it pass Leominster all 6 carriages looked fairly busy

Looks like 2 carriages coming off at Shrewsbury. Likely the 6 car formation was returning sets to Shrewsbury or Machynlleth for the Cambrian.

 

[158841]

A move from Chester to Longsight has ran about an hour or so ago could this be 175s? And anyone know what this move might be for?

Unsure what's gone up but 175009/104 are on their way back from Longsight as 5Z13

 

[Bikeman78]

Sundays often see some unusual formations but I don't think I've seen a 6 car 158 on the Marches before

Very rare. I travelled on a six car from Newport to Shrewsbury in June 2021. It was swapped for a 175 at Shrewsbury.

 

[Caaardiff]

A 6 car is booked some Sundays at the moment. A 4 car goes to Manchester then picks up a 158 that lays over at Manchester overnight back to South Wales

 

[Razorblades]

Likely to help with the lack of services by gwr xc ect

ECT?

 

[Techniquest]

ECT?

Got to be a typo for 'etc'!

 

[craigybagel]

Sundays often see some unusual formations but I don't think I've seen a 6 car 158 on the Marches before

Very rare. I travelled on a six car from Newport to Shrewsbury in June 2021. It was swapped for a 175 at Shrewsbury.

6 car 158s are very difficult to work on the Marches, after Newport it's only Abergavenny, Hereford and Shrewsbury that has long enough platforms - and northbound only for the first of those. It'll be a lot easier with 197s and ASDO though....

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Does 175002 remain the only 175 to be permanently stood-down?

 

[tomm]

175005 is with 111. 007,008, 101 unlikely to be used with TFW after fires.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Does 175002 remain the only 175 to be permanently stood-down?

I was told that 175005 is withdrawn too but that is still at Holyhead.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I was told that 175005 is withdrawn too but that is still at Holyhead.

I see, thanks. I don’t exclusively mean ones actually off lease, just those not planned to work again.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

I see, thanks. I don’t exclusively mean ones actually off lease, just those not planned to work again.

I don't actually think 002 is off lease until its inspection is finished. 005 definitely the 2nd one withdrawn though.

 

[Philip]

It's showing 001 and 116 in service today, on Holyhead-Cardiff diagrams.

 

[animationmilo]

006 and 011 out too

 

[Steveswan10]

Just had 175006 pass Leominster on 1V92.....doesn't seem to have much go in it....usually when the 175s leave Leominster they are moving at quite a pace by the time they pass the box but this one seemed quiet and sluggish

 

[Llanigraham]

6 car 158s are very difficult to work on the Marches, after Newport it's only Abergavenny, Hereford and Shrewsbury that has long enough platforms - and northbound only for the first of those. It'll be a lot easier with 197s and ASDO though....

Surprised Shrewsbury won't take 6, other than the two bays.

 

[Western 52]

Just had 175006 pass Leominster on 1V92.....doesn't seem to have much go in it....usually when the 175s leave Leominster they are moving at quite a pace by the time they pass the box but this one seemed quiet and sluggish

Seems to be losing a bit of time. 10 late off Cardiff, but no idea if this is due to the unit.

 

[Razorblades]

Got to be a typo for 'etc'!

Oh yes, obvious now - doh! - I thought it was Electric Current (for) Traction, and couldn't understand why!!!

 

[Dai Corner]

Latest news is that they're still awaiting parts and the situation is likely to extend into April

Transport for Wales rail passengers face disruption into April

Transport for Wales says it is struggling to get parts needed to bring trains back into operation.

www.bbc.co.uk

Rail disruption across Wales will continue into April after trains were withdrawn following several fires.

More than 100 services were cancelled in part or in full at the start of March after three "mechanical failures" on Class 175 trains.

Transport for Wales (TfW) said it was struggling to get the parts it needed to bring trains back into operation.

Services between Chester and Liverpool remain cancelled, with replacement buses in place for several other lines.

"All necessary checks and repairs must be completed on our Class 175 trains before they are allowed back into service," a TfW spokesperson said.

"For some of the trains, additional engine repair work has been found to be required."

 

[Andy Pacer]

Despite the shortage of 175s they appear to have found a 6 car 158 for the 1032 Swansea to Manchester today, splitting at Crewe I think.

Realtime Trains | 1W56 1032 Swansea to Manchester Piccadilly | 19/03/2023

Real-time train running information for 1W56 1032 departure from Swansea to Manchester Piccadilly on 19/03/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Also interesting that they appeared to have swapped one of the 3 units at Cardiff.

 

[craigybagel]

Surprised Shrewsbury won't take 6, other than the two bays.

I included Shrewsbury in the stations that will take 6 or more.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Latest news is that they're still awaiting parts and the situation is likely to extend into April

Transport for Wales rail passengers face disruption into April

Transport for Wales says it is struggling to get parts needed to bring trains back into operation.

www.bbc.co.uk

I've heard elsewhere that radiator issues are the main thing which is parking most up. There are a couple more out today though which is positive.

 

[Llanigraham]

I included Shrewsbury in the stations that will take 6 or more.

Oops! Sorry I read it wrong.

 

[william.martin]

Surprised Shrewsbury won't take 6, other than the two bays.

It will, I have been on one

 

[allaction]

The 175 situation is the top story on BBC Wales Today this (Monday) evening, 20 March. The programme is available on the BBC iPlayer for 24 hours only from around 1915 on Monday.