'Telescopic' level crossing gates?

[ainsworth74]

I will, of course, endeavour to supply photos once there is evidence of activity. Unless one of the other honourable members for Redcar beats me to it!

 

[Jpb_jpb]

I for one cannot wait for the abuse we get to stop from the general public when they do close and fail. Work starts at the beginning of October. Nothing set in stone as to when it'll finish, I will update with pics

 

[Jpb_jpb]

The gates are in, just need hooking up, should be operational next week sometime

 

[Phil.]

Yeah I was thinking that if for no other reason that it seems incredibly over-engineered compared to more usual crossing gates!

".......it seems incredibly over-engineered..."
So was the Forth rail bridge but it's not cracking up.

 

[ainsworth74]

".......it seems incredibly over-engineered..."
So was the Forth rail bridge but it's not cracking up.

Well yes but then we don't get the weather that they do!

 

[Tio Terry]

Perhaps this - or something similar - is the solution for Plumpton!

 

[Llanigraham]

Perhaps this - or something similar - is the solution for Plumpton!

Doubt it.
They want to keep their old fashioned gates.

 

[Crossover]

Is the level crossing shut to road or rail traffic at the moment, or are the gates still in operation at present?

 

[deltic08]

The gates are in, just need hooking up, should be operational next week sometime

So, they are not actually telescopic but sliding.

 

[swt_passenger]

So, they are not actually telescopic but sliding.

They could be telescopic, there are two sets of red lights showing in the picture that appear to be fitted to different sections of barrier.

 

[najaB]

So, they are not actually telescopic but sliding.

Sliding telescopically out.

 

[swt_passenger]

Sliding telescopically out.

Telescopic isn't that good a description really is it...

"Two stage sliding"?

"Extending sliding"?

"Elongating"?

 

[Llanigraham]

Two stage sliding sounds about right from the picture above.

 

[najaB]

Telescopic isn't that good a description really is it...

"Two stage sliding"?

"Extending sliding"?

"Elongating"?

It meets the dictionary definition though: obligatory Wiki link.

 

[edwin_m]

Doubt it.
They want to keep their old fashioned gates.

I guess one of these telescopic/sliding/whatever gates could be made to look a bit like a traditional level crossing gate.

 

[Llanigraham]

I guess one of these telescopic/sliding/whatever gates could be made to look a bit like a traditional level crossing gate.

But they don't swing.
I seem to remember that the residents were insisting on something that blocked both the road and the railway.

 

[Jpb_jpb]

Also probably wanted something that played a classy tune whilst closing, but you can't have everything. Most level crossings don't close the track. The one half a mile down the road doesn't....

 

[TBY-Paul]

The Local newspaper has published a video of the crossing in action.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/relief-motorists-pedestrians-new-wind-10595740

 

[OxtedL]

Network Rail produced a press release this morning too, it is here: http://www.networkrailmediacentre.c...e-barriers-in-action-at-west-dyke-road-redcar
Picture from that release:

The press release includes a link to a video of the crossing in operation, I think from the other side to the one linked by TBY-Paul. You have to download it, it is 80MB.

 

[ainsworth74]

They are actually quite impressive! Wonder if it's going to stay as a bespoke solution or if NR are thinking about rolling it out anywhere else. And Northern even arranged for a 156 to be passing when the Gazette was there

 

[Darandio]

Is the level crossing shut to road or rail traffic at the moment, or are the gates still in operation at present?

Bit late now as the new ones are now functional, but to answer your question....

The old gates were still functional and the crossing was open. However, it did succumb to the wind last week again.

I'm just glad it's over, it's been torture for too long.

 

[swt_passenger]

Bit late now as the new ones are now functional, but to answer your question...

I think Crossover might have been asking about Plumpton, if you look at the previous post to his?

 

[Tio Terry]

From the video I would suggest their operation is flawed. If you think of a 4 barrier crossing the two barriers for the left hand (correct driving side) close first leaving a chance for any vehicle already on the crossing to escape before both the other barriers lower.

The video appears to show that the "far" side barrier makes it way across the road even faster than the "near" side one. That would certainly trap anyone still on the crossing.

 

[ainsworth74]

From the video I would suggest their operation is flawed. If you think of a 4 barrier crossing the two barriers for the left hand (correct driving side) close first leaving a chance for any vehicle already on the crossing to escape before both the other barriers lower.

The video appears to show that the "far" side barrier makes it way across the road even faster than the "near" side one. That would certainly trap anyone still on the crossing.

It's a manned crossing. If the crossing is blocked then the signaller will deal with it.

 

[cjmillsnun]

Definitely the entry that closes first on each side...

They do seem slower than the 4 barrier solution though

 

[najaB]

The video appears to show that the "far" side barrier makes it way across the road even faster than the "near" side one. That would certainly trap anyone still on the crossing.

I disagree. The light sequence is already started when the video starts and it's at good 12+ seconds before the barrier reaches the mid-point of the road. More than enough time to clear the crossing. Besides, it is a manned crossing at the moment and I suspect will change to a CCTV monitored crossing in the future.

 

[Darandio]

They do seem slower than the 4 barrier solution though

But certainly no slower than what we already had, they also won't be defeated by a brisk breeze.

Win win if you live here.

 

[ainsworth74]

But certainly no slower than what we already had, they also won't be defeated by a brisk breeze.

Win win if you live here.

Plus a lot cheaper than knocking down the signal box and moving it or realigning the railway and platforms to fit in one of the mounts for the barrier...

 

[Crossover]

Bit late now as the new ones are now functional, but to answer your question....

The old gates were still functional and the crossing was open. However, it did succumb to the wind last week again.

I'm just glad it's over, it's been torture for too long.

Thanks. I think a lot of things succumbed to the wind last week!

I suspect the elation will be similar (though probably more than, given how long this has gone on for) to my euphoria that my journey to work is finally roadworks free again (until after Christmas, probably, anyway!)

I think Crossover might have been asking about Plumpton, if you look at the previous post to his?

I was referring to Redcar - apologies for the confusion

 

[Jpb_jpb]

Th old ones worked up until the new ones were fully installed. Some long night shifts later and I tested them myself. I think they are mightily impressive. Shame I've heard they are temporary and will be changed when the box migrates to York (I still think it's too busy of a crossing for it to be OD). They are the first but won't be the last, NR will be watching closely and adapting to other areas in the county.
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And yes... Lasts weeks closures were wind related