Storm Eowyn Disruption - 24/1/25

[LowLevel]

The roof is apparently at risk of blowing off one of the apartment complexes opposite Nottingham station multi storey car park which has caused the closure of the access to it. Traffic is somewhat chaotic in the area as a result.

 

[Howardh]

What did you do in the end? Just curious.

Kept to my plan all day - only alteration was getting an earlier train from Brighton as the 1013 (??) to Cambridge was cancelled. Back home now at my scheduled time, noticed the roads were a lot lighter this afternoon and fewer pax on the bus!

 

[trainophile]

Kept to my plan all day - only alteration was getting an earlier train from Brighton as the 1013 (??) to Cambridge was cancelled. Back home now at my scheduled time, noticed the roads were a lot lighter this afternoon and fewer pax on the bus!

I meant after Man Picc. You seemed to have a couple of options, MCO or MCV being under consideration. (I know the Bolton/Southport line pretty well so was just wondering what you ended up on.)

 

[30907]

East Coast Mainline - Has that Blanket Speed Restriction of 50mph been implemented yet?

Looking at RTT, there is definitely now a restriction N of York.

 

[Howardh]

Lol I meant after Man Picc. You seemed to have a couple of options, MCO or MCV being under consideration. (I know the Bolton/Southport line pretty well so was just wondering what you ended up on.)

Oh sorry! yes the scheduled MIA > Blackpool turned up as was suggested on here and I managed to scramble on that one. Had I missed that (and got it only just) then there was the alternative of getting the next train to Oxford Road and then the Bolton train which starts there on P5. All good in the end!

 

[dk1]

Here's the tree in question via GA website

Down main has reopened. Went via Electric lines up road to Romford. Even with congestion at Shenfield I was only 13 late into Stratford and less into Liverpool St so no delay repay on my train

Oh and the damaged/stricken train is still in situ

 

[PyrahnaRanger]

No ScotRail services expected to run before 12pm tomorrow. Official post from ScotRail confirms this.

Good call to close the WCML north of Preston today as Palisade fencing has fallen onto the line north of Carlisle and there is a roof from a nearby house now blocking the line at Shap.

Any idea what impact this may have on Avanti running north of Preston tomorrow?

Trying to decide if it's a second night in London as Carlisle-Workington is still showing "Do Not Travel'" or if I can get to Carlisle and get collected from there.

 

[Bald Rick]

Having been okay for most of the day it appears Teesside has finally collapsed in a heap. Something wrong at/around Eaglescliffe I think? Either way it's collapsed the service. There's a GC that made it to Yarm, sat for maybe an hour and has now reversed back to Northallerton and have now terminated at Darlington before starting a southbound service from there.

Northern are also in damage control mode. With not much moving at all at the moment other than a service currently on the Bishop branch and one on its way to Middlesbrough from Saltburn.

Complete failure of the signalling at Eaglescliffe.

 

[Horizon22]

Down main has reopened. Went via Electric lines up road to Romford. Even with congestion at Shenfield I was only 13 late into Stratford and less into Liverpool St so no delay repay on my train

Oh and the damaged/stricken train is still in situ

Moved off now should expect all lines open soon.

 

[Dave W]

Kept to my plan all day - only alteration was getting an earlier train from Brighton as the 1013 (??) to Cambridge was cancelled. Back home now at my scheduled time, noticed the roads were a lot lighter this afternoon and fewer pax on the bus!

I live in a bit of London where the pandemic lockdown was barely adhered to, much less a weather warning that doesn't affect the area. And yet the roads were dead tonight, as was the bus.

Despite the fact that once the storm had blown through it was a masterfully pretty day with unseasonable double figure temperatures.

 

[iknowyeah]

Metrolink not running through Deansgate now due to "damage on the overhead wires"

 

[John Luxton]

isn't that what Travel insurance is for?

Travel insurance will not cover you if you decide not to travel because of the weather. I have sometime rescheduled holidays just because its a bit dodgy and not dangerous as I would rather have good weather. So for me flexible bookings are much better. Also some travel insurance including the policy I have from a UK bank only cover you for stays of two nights or more. One night and day trips are not covered.

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Ironically I did book the refundable rate, via booking.com last January after checking out from last year’s stay in the same hotel. At that time with the strikes unresolved I always booked cancellable hotels. However the policy is apparently 48 hours notice for any sort of refund.

I should have popped down to reception last night when I first heard about the storm, might have got one day back, but I was too busy finding train tickets! Never mind, nearly home now, and I would only have been stressing if I’d stayed.

I see. I won't use Booking.com either. Did a trip with a friend a few years ago staying at the same hotel. I booked on the hotel web site, he booked via booking.com. When we checked out he wanted to know why his bill was £5 more than my bill. The receptionist told him it was because he used booking.com and they have to pay commission. My next door neighbour has had some issues with booking.com a few days ago. She had to curtail her short break in Llandudno because of a widespread water supply failure in the area. Hotel told her that as the booking was via Booking.com she would have to claim from them. Booking.com told her she would have to claim from the hotel!

 

[NEDdrv]

Looking at RTT, there is definitely now a restriction N of York.

50mph applied from 11.48, XC 1G37 advised by signaller before leaving York. Arrived Newcastle 100 mins late after OHL probs at Aycliffe and waiting services running simbids over down line. People should listen when DO NOT TRAVEL is issued.

 

[trainophile]

Travel insurance will not cover you if you decide not to travel because of the weather. I have sometime rescheduled holidays just because its a bit dodgy and not dangerous as I would rather have good weather. So for me flexible bookings are much better. Also some travel insurance including the policy I have from a UK bank only cover you for stays of two nights or more. One night and day trips are not covered.

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I see. I won't use Booking.com either. Did a trip with a friend a few years ago staying at the same hotel. I booked on the hotel web site, he booked via booking.com. When we checked out he wanted to know why his bill was £5 more than my bill. The receptionist told him it was because he used booking.com and they have to pay commission. My next door neighbour has had some issues with booking.com a few days ago. She had to curtail her short break in Llandudno because of a widespread water supply failure in the area. Hotel told her that as the booking was via Booking.com she would have to claim from them. Booking.com told her she would have to claim from the hotel!

Most of the travel policies I've been offered when booking UK trips tend to exclude transport cancellations including strikes, and weather related changes of plan. In fact unless you're taken seriously ill there's not much at all that you can claim for.

 

[739678]

Glasgow Subway about to start service for the remainder of the evening according to official statement on website and X.
Will be only public transport in Glasgow...

 

[eoff]

More than leaves on the line at Scotrail...

Storm Éowyn moves northward, currently bringing 90mph+ gusts in & around the central belt. Today we have seen: - Trees on the line - A trampoline on the line - A sofa on the line - Shed roofs on the line - Wheelie bins on the line

x.com

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[Horizon22]

Jubilee line just been shut from Stratford due to flooding, so will be interesting to see the videos of that when they surface!

 

[43096]

More than leaves on the line at Scotrail...

It wouldn't be a proper storm without a trampoline on a railway line!

 

[Scotrail84]

More than leaves on the line at Scotrail...

We've been absolutely battered up here. Expect a severely reduced service tomorrow, diesel routes being the most likely to run.

 

[Tetchytyke]

So all the buses around Halifax have been fine all day, they’ve even had the double deckers out on all the usual routes including the X1/501 and 576. Those who know the area will know they’re both fairly exposed routes.

There really was no reason at all for Northern to bin everything off on the Calder Valley. Still, I’m sure it’s saved them a good whack on overtime.

I wouldn’t have made it home anyway and I was happy to have the extra night in Halifax. But it’s a bloody poor show from Northern. I definitely think they were pulling a fast one.

 

[Segedunum]

It wouldn't be a proper storm without a trampoline on a railway line!

On Metro there was a kiddie pool that somehow ended up on the track near Jesmond You do wonder why someone had one of those ready to go in their back garden in the middle of January.

 

[D6130]

Have just seen two TPE rail replacement buses - one in each direction - passing through Hebden Bridge. Both First Huddersfield double-deckers.

 

[Tetchytyke]

People should listen when DO NOT TRAVEL is issued.

I can’t imagine anyone who was travelling was doing so because they had a choice.

Maybe if the railway was on the hook for accommodation costs- as happens on the airlines- it would be different.

And I’ll tell you what: if the railways WERE on the hook for accommodation/duty of care you can bet your bottom dollar most of the DO NOT TRAVEL warnings would not have been issued. But the operators get to save the overtime and the passengers are the ones out of pocket. Northern today were taking the absolute wee-wee.

 

[Vexed]

What I've been especially impressed with is the berth triggered broadcasts used on the ECML, in resposne to weather at local weather stations. This allows blanket ESRs to be instated and removed in line with the conditions. For instance, Northallerton to York was at line speed, whilst the rest of the north was under a 50mph ESR, thanks to this use of technology - it'd be great to see this rolled out more widely across key mainlines (eg: XC route York - Sheffield, TPE route Leeds - Manchester).

Great to see under-used GSM-R features in operation.

As others have said not much impact down near London, there was a tree blocking the down SWML lines between Woking and Basingstoke for a couple hours early this morning while I passed by in the up direction, 10 late due to my train being delayed earlier due to a costal ESR (lifted at 0900) for the wind. Signalling faliures and a police incident seem to have had a bigger affect than the storm.

 

[ainsworth74]

Complete failure of the signalling at Eaglescliffe.

Aha I did wonder after it went on for quite so long if it was something not storm related!

 

[Tetchytyke]

Have just seen two TPE rail replacement buses - one in each direction - passing through Hebden Bridge. Both First Huddersfield double-deckers.

Wonder what they were doing. The line via Standedge is open and Northern has not arranged any alternative transport between Halifax and Todmorden

 

[PyrahnaRanger]

I can’t imagine anyone who was travelling was doing so because they had a choice.

Maybe if the railway was on the hook for accommodation costs- as happens on the airlines- it would be different.

And I’ll tell you what: if the railways WERE on the hook for accommodation/duty of care you can bet your bottom dollar most of the DO NOT TRAVEL warnings would not have been issued. But the operators get to save the overtime and the passengers are the ones out of pocket. Northern today were taking the absolute wee-wee.

I'd really like to get home to my family. There was a do not travel due to the weather, so I didn't travel. I've paid for a hotel, extra food and clothing. I hoped to travel home tomorrow as Avanti seems able to run a service, but Northern seem to think running trains is below them... Taking the wee-wee is letting them off lightly.

 

[Tetchytyke]

Northern seem to think running trains is below them... Taking the wee-wee is letting them off lightly.

I’m in the same boat but the Isle of Man has been really badly hit and the airport was shut all day. Even if I’d got to Manchester I’d have got no further.

I’m lucky as I got to rebook my flight free of charge; Loganair had let me do so even before my flight got cancelled. Lots of flights did leave Manchester today. Anyone who was relying on Northern to get them to the airport was screwed. Safe enough for aircraft but not safe enough for Northern…aye, right.

The DO NOT TRAVEL for tomorrow in Cumbria is clearly more about the fact they don’t have enough staff.

This is why the railway gets such a bad press. Some of the decisions were clearly safety-related, definitely the ones in the areas with red warnings. But Northern’s decisions seem to be more based on what they can be arsed running.

Sadly Northern have no shame and there’s no meaningful way of making their management have shame.

 

[anothertyke]

I'd really like to get home to my family. There was a do not travel due to the weather, so I didn't travel. I've paid for a hotel, extra food and clothing. I hoped to travel home tomorrow as Avanti seems able to run a service, but Northern seem to think running trains is below them... Taking the wee-wee is letting them off lightly.

Is the X4/X5 from Penrith an option?

 

[Smidster]

West Coast abandoned north of Preston and TPE north of Carlisle all day tomorrow.

Last time I try to go to Scotland!