Stored 508 update

[prod_pep]

The Connex-liveried 508s were withdrawn in 2006 - May in the case of 508212 with 508201/202/204/206/209 following in December.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

The Connex-liveried 508s were withdrawn in 2006 - May in the case of 508212 with 508201/202/204/206/209 following in December.

It's a shame a home couldn't have been found for them back then- extra capacity on Merseyside or even the Coastway instead of the 313s- rather than letting them rot.

 

[Fincra5]

Considering Southern are lack of spares for 313s.. do you think anything will be salvaged from the 508s?

 

[50047]

Considering Southern are lack of spares for 313s.. do you think anything will be salvaged from the 508s?

Put simply, yes



Vehicles 71515, 71501, 71504 and 71498 are now authorised for disposal


508301 will be disposed of by the end of this week

 

[WillPS]

Does "disposed" mean reduced to razor blades or simply sat in a scrapyard?

 

[50047]

By disposed I mean large piles of mangled metal

 

[158722]

Put simply, yes



Vehicles 71515, 71501, 71504 and 71498 are now authorised for disposal


508301 will be disposed of by the end of this week

71504 is in 508122, happily running around MerseyRail. 71514 perhaps?

If so, these are 4 centre cars from the later refurbished SET units (207/208/210/211), which suggests that the driving cars might have a future as barrier vehicles, as has already been mentioned for the cars from 508207?

Still only the 4 vehicles from 508201 & 209 actually scrapped so far? 64669/692 & 71483/503.

 

[Boothby97]

Still only the 4 vehicles from 508201 & 209 actually scrapped so far? 64669/692 & 71483/503.

The other two driving cars went to Merseyside fire & rescue training centre
Thanks, Sam

 

[158722]

The other two driving cars went to Merseyside fire & rescue training centre
Thanks, Sam

I know, thats why I said 4 cars scrapped...

 

[50047]

71504 is in 508122, happily running around MerseyRail. 71514 perhaps?

If so, these are 4 centre cars from the later refurbished SET units (207/208/210/211), which suggests that the driving cars might have a future as barrier vehicles, as has already been mentioned for the cars from 508207?

Still only the 4 vehicles from 508201 & 209 actually scrapped so far? 64669/692 & 71483/503.

Yep, typo........

71504 should read 71514


508205 (all vehicles), now also assigned for disposal
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To date, the following vehicles have been scrapped: 71483, 64669, 71503, 64683, 71517, 64726, 64690, 71524, 64733

508301, 206 and 204 are ready to be scrapped

508202, 508205, 71515, 71501, 71514, 71498 are all assigned for scrapping

 

[8J]

I wish that at least 2 could be saved for a future on Merseyrail. Merseytravel who runs the concession with Serco and Abellio say in their own contract agreement that no passengers should be standing up for more than 10 mins.

As someone who previously worked for the company, I can safely say that that target is not being met on 2 trains in particular. One being a 3 car working on the Hunts Cross - Southport and one being the 08:21 West Kirby to Weat Kirby (via Liverpool loop) 3 car working. There are probably more trains in the AM peak that are seriously overcrowded, but these services jump out at me as being particularly bad.

 

[50047]

Update on 508 position at Eastleigh

Scrap:
71483 12/06/2013
64669 12/06/2013
71503 11/06/2013
64683 13/06/2013
71517 17/06/2013
64726 18/06/2013
64690 19/06/2013
71524 20/06/2013
64733 21/06/2013
64650 24/06/2013
71484 26/06/2013
64693 27/06/2013
64661 03/07/2013
71495 03/07/2013
64704 02/07/2013
64655 18/07/2013
71489 16/07/2013
64698 15/07/2013
71498 08/07/2013

71501 is currently on the scrap line

508202 is heavily stripped and will be scrapped by late August

508203,205, 64677, 71515 and 71514 are assigned scrap but are intact at this time

64720, 64710, 64723, 64667 and 64680 will remain at Eastleigh, largely intact, UFN

64664 and 64707 are assigned to a developing project

 

[50047]

Update on 508 position at Eastleigh........

No further vehicles have been scrapped since previous post

71501 71514 and 71515 are on the scrap line and don't have long left

508205 is being stripped at this time

508202 is heavily stripped but not yet positioned for scrapping

 

[50047]

71501 71514 and 71515 have been scrapped

508202 and 508205 will be on the scrap line by tomorrow with disposal to take place next week

 

[Ciderking]

Here's a picture I took today of 508205 in the scrapline.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sparrowhawk7/9523350313/

 

[swt_passenger]

I'm hoping someone will let us know when the last one goes, if only because a few weeks later someone's almost certain to pop up and involve them in some cunning cascade or other...

 

[8J]

Can anyone confirm what units if any are left at Eastleigh?

 

[Ciderking]

Looks like only seven class 508 carriages left now.

Two are reserved for conversion to translator vehicles.

 

[swt_passenger]

Checking through the works blog posts gives a fair idea of the current situation, eg as of last Friday:

508s are getting very thin on the ground now with only 9 vehicles left on site. 71515 (508210), 508202, 64677 (508210), 508205 and 64697 (508203) have all been scrapped by Raxstar in the last two weeks. 71488 (508203) has been shunted into the scrap line this morning and 64654 (508203) is in the shed being stripped of re-usable components.

64664 and 64707 of 508207 have been taken into the main workshops by Arlington and lifted off their bogies ready for work to begin converting them to translator vehicles.

http://eastleighworks.blogspot.co.uk

 

[50047]

Update on 508s at Eastleigh

Scrap dates so far............

71503 11/6
71483 12/6
64669 12/6
64683 13/6
71517 17/6
64726 18/6
64690 19/6
71524 20/6
64733 21/6
64650 24/6
71484 26/6
64693 27/6
64704 2/7
71495 3/7
64661 3/7
71498 8/7
64698 15/7
71489 17/7
64655 18/7
71501 12/8
71514 12/8
71515 13/8
64696 19/8
71487 20/8
64653 20/8
64677 21/8
64700 22/8

64654 and 71488 are on the scrap line

64720, 64667, 64710, 64680 and 64723 remain complete

64664 and 64707 are in the shed for further works

 

[50047]

Update:

64654 and 71488 have been disposed of this week

64720, 64667, 64710, 64680 and 64723 remain complete

64664 and 64707 are in the shed on stands with bogies removed

 

[50047]

Scrapping for now is completed

The final disposal dates are

71488 16/9
64654 17/9

Two further vehicles may be leaving before years end for pastures new

 

[WillPS]

So what are the remaining out-of-service units and their whereabouts?

Thanks for the updates.

 

[50047]

So what are the remaining out-of-service units and their whereabouts?

Thanks for the updates.

All at Eastleigh......

64720, 64667, 64710, 64680 and 64723 remain complete

64664 and 64707 are in the shed on stands with bogies removed

 

[swt_passenger]

However from WillPS's perspective that presumably means it is no longer possible to make up actual units, as those are all driving car numbers?

It does seem from earlier lists that all the centre cars of the sub-class have definitely been scrapped, but can that be confirmed?

 

[50047]

However from WillPS's perspective that presumably means it is no longer possible to make up actual units, as those are all driving car numbers?

It does seem from earlier lists that all the centre cars of the sub-class have definitely been scrapped, but can that be confirmed?

It will not be possible to make up a three car set unless there are other trailers stored elsewhere, and I am not aware of any. All those that were at Eastleigh are disposed of.

As an aside, 64710 and 64720 may have a new home to go to by the end of this year

 

[WillPS]

What's the logic behind keeping half a dozen driving cars but no centre cars?

 

[D365]

Spares for PEP units? As with that 455 recently, it may be possible to convert to centre cars...

 

[Nym]

What's the logic behind keeping half a dozen driving cars but no centre cars?

Spares...

Driving cars can be turned into other things such as departmental vehicles easilly and don't need the trailers. (Compressors can be fitted in the carbody)

 

[WillPS]

Ahhah! My initial thought was that driving cars are more likely to be affected by collisions; good to see some less moribund reasoning!