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Just looking through a few sites, it seems that Gillmoss have 34212 thru 34221 whicha re a bit out of series with the rest of their newer Darts, so perhaps more of them are on the move, either to preston or Kendal.
 
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Not really, if they got 3 more marshalls, they could put 2 of them on 50/51 Moorclose circular's, moving the 51 plate solo's onto service 1 in Whitehaven, and the other marshall could go on Maryport town service 57, that would make all of the current town service minibus routes low floor services.

suppose that could work, but the solo's look good on moorclose haha. the darts could possibly work on 1, but saying that i havnt been across the full route. i think the darts are similar length to the vario's which have worked the 1 service a few times, but i suppose the darts are wider.
it would be nice if lillyhall could get hold of 2 longer darts (38 seat or something) to run moorclose circular. back when 47617 was off the road being repaired from accident damaged, i seen one of the 56reg darts on Moorclose 50 (not sure how it ended up on there! but it did!).

its about time the 58 had a decent bus! but dart would be a little big. i've driven along most of the route in a car and found it a little uncomfortable. however saying that, J B Pickthall get a coach down some of that route every school day!
 

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whatever happens, it will be a challenge lol.
might be worth it if they split the route up though. have a Kells 1, and Lowca 1A. when john hoban had his contract at St Benedicts last year, he used his 33 seaters a few times (Plaxton Cheetah and Esker Radia), which pretty much covered the whitehaven - lowca side (he'd take it through h'crest onto loop road, through parton and then upto lowca). i can't see stagecoach doing that though. it would be like telling them to separate harrington and seaton, which i really can't see them doing! pretty sure harrington and seaton used to be separate though. i remember the Bristols being on 46 BRIERYDALE a few times, and the old G reg 709d's on 47 SEATON.
 

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Don't know whether its been mentioned on here but 21004 has gone for an interior referb. Its may get an LED.
 

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30281 on 7 Vale-Marsh
17024 on 41 Morecambe-Catterall short working (goes into Garstang outstation)
17022 on 2A Combermere Rd-University (LT style blinds)
20131 on 7 Vale-City centre
16662 on 42 Blackpool-Lancaster bus station

The resurfacing on Slyne Rd doesnt seem to be having much affect on the 50/55/55A/555 services mainly because they are doing them at night.
 

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Spotted 16662 and 16663 on the 42.
17020 in the 40.
21005 on the 55.
The usual Tridents on the 2/2a.
a MAN on the 40 as well which is becoming a common occurrence.
 

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K768DAO (20768 ) was on Workington Bus Station annexe at around 1310.
K757DA0 (20757) was on Workington Bus Station annexe.
N128YRM (40028 ) was also on the annexe.
N212UHH (40012) was on Harrington 46.
S796KRM (52626) was on "X5 Workington". i'm suprised the display says that, i thought when they stopped the changing feature and put the destination in lower case that they would have swapped the number and place around like the rest.
N201UHH (40001) was on Harrington 46 at 1330 ish.
PX08FMP (47616) was on Moorclose 51.
P566PNE (42566) was on the annexe, along with the 2 B10m's mentioned above.

S796KRM (52626) was trying to get out of Thornthwaite to on its way back to Workington when i went past, at 1630 ish.
P566PNE (42566) was still on the annexe, along with R252NBV (16652).
PO51WLR (47024) was on Moorclose 50.

i'm guessing that PX08FMU (47617) and PO51WLP (47023) were on Mirehouse Circulars.
 

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T 607 JBA, one of the Marshall Darts supposedly heading for Lillyhall has been seen working in Preston today.

It's unclear whether this is a loan or permanamt movement, but it seems a little odd.
 

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Preston Bus Optare Solo No.72 has Stagecoach fleetnames on the front but still has Preston names and livery on the sides
 

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The reasone behind that is the front and rear logos are smaller and can be covered by a standard Stagecoach logo.
The PB side logos are too large to be covered, however.
 

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T 607 JBA, one of the Marshall Darts supposedly heading for Lillyhall has been seen working in Preston today.

It's unclear whether this is a loan or permanamt movement, but it seems a little odd.

unfortunately Preston get priority over "available" low floor buses :( whether long term or short term :( so theres nothing to stop stagecoach NW saying that T607JBA can go to Preston on long term loan, and the B6 Preston took out of reserve could go into service at lillyhall, which isnt much better than the 709d's really.

today i seen:
N651VSS (40651) on Workington Bus Station annexe.
N206UHH (40006) on "46B WORKINGTON" although it was heading out to Harrington.
K765DAO (20765) on "Whitehaven 301"
 

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just used the B6 as an example of what could happen with preston getting priority.
if T607 is staying at Preston, and T602 isnt coming to Lillyhall, then Lillyhall should get the ALX200 Preston have in reserve (S479BWC, 34079). Lillyhall's needs are greater than Prestons :lol: but if T602 is coming to Lillyhall instead, it will leave Kendal a bus down.

T607JBA being in Preston could be short term though, maybe as a cover vehicle for any PB vehicles coming off service for any work. i suppose theres only management that will know exactly what is happening.
 

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A thought; 33169 may be a short term cover for 34079 which has been moved to Preston from Gillmoss, so it'll be having new legals and names applied etc I guess.
 

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hopefully is that! Lillyhall needs any low floor vehicles that are available! need those 709d's to go!
 

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20765 added to retrim list. Still with bright tech though. Ta CaineBJ

Also added the OT tridents to the list
 
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S799KRM (52629) was on X4 Penrith.
N128YRM (40028 ) on layover in Workington Bus Station from "48 WORKINGTON" (display still not working, boards saying "48 WORKINGTON" and "48 NORTHSIDE" in windscreen.
K763DAO (20763) was on the morning Seaton 47.
PO51WLP (47023) was on Moorclose 51.
N215YHH (40025) was on Harrington 46. boards in window, dead display.
N133YRM (40033) was heading towards Lillyhall from Whitehaven at 0830ish, "Sorry Not In Service" on display.
K765DAO (20765) was on "SCHOOL [Graphic] SPECIAL" this morning.
H118SAO (14258 ) was on "SCHOOL [Graphic] SPECIAL" this afternoon.
K757DAO (20757) was on Seaton 47 this afternoon.
N215YHH (40025) was later on Moorclose 50 (paper in window with "50").
PX56CWM (35246) was running late on Frizington 31, supposed to leave Workington Bus Station at 1530ish.
K759DAO (20759) was on Workington Bus Station annexe.
K763DAO (20763) was on Workington Bus Station annexe.
K737DAO (20737) was on Maryport 31, leaving bus station at 1550ish.
N194LFV (40394) was heading towards Bus Station as "46A WORKINGTON", which i seen change to "47 SEATON". a few random bricks were left on the display, some from previous destination.
 
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its a shame VRR is leaving service :( i really liked that coach! everything on it was good, apart from its bright tech with the stupid autocheck routine!
it wouldnt suprise me if they painted it into Stagecoach Training livery, and replaced one of the paramounts at Morecambe or Carlisle.
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would be nice if this route was still around! then they wouldnt have to get deckers on X4 / X5! lillyhall could maybe take route up and brand versa for it :-P i need to stop dreaming! that would never happen!
 

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its a shame that lillyhall will get ALX400 / E400 if anything :( fine for X5, but not really for anything else. something a little bigger would have been nicer for 300, but oh well. just have to hope that there isnt a sudden surge in people wanting to use the bus to Carlisle!
 

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East Lancs Lolyne's from manchester if second hand would have been nice lol. the lolyne's have 82 seated rather than 77 / 79 on alx400's. doesnt seem much difference, but if kendal depot replace a B28F with B30F there must be some advantage to the few extra seats lol.
there isnt really anything bigger than E400's in UK at the minute :( E500's woud have been nice if they were around!
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actually, there is something bigger, but chances are stagecoach won't get them :( they seem to like ADL's for deckers :(
Optare Olympus, 68 - 100 seated! soon to be replaced by Optare Rapta, which looks awesome!

chances are they'll be 2nd hand from manchester. manchester supposed to be getting a whole load of E400's this year some point, so some of their older ALX400's could get transferred here, or maybe even their lolynes which are so much nicer!
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27/01/2009

N213UHH (40013) on Workington Bus Station annexe.
PO51WLR (47024) on Moorclose 50.
L119HHV (32917) was on morning Seaton 47.
S797KRM (52627) was on X4 Penrith.
P129XCN (20129) was heading towards Workington Bus Station from Lillyhall at 0810ish with "SCHOOL [Graphic] SPECIAL" on display.
K765DAO (20765) was heading towards Lillyhall depot from St Benedicts School, with "SCHOOL [Graphic] SPECIAL" on the display at 0830ish.
H118SAO (14258 ) was on "ST BENEDICTS 33D" this morning.
K779DAO (20779) was standing in for an E300 on 31 service.
L119HHV (32917) was later on Workington Bus Station annexe, with board in window saying "BNG CONTRACT".
R254NBV (16654) was also on Workington Bus Station annexe.
i think a 709d has been running Moorclose Circular 50 all day, but not totally sure.
N194LFV (40394) was coming off Seaton 47 and going onto Harrington 46 at 1550ish.
 
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This years Morecambe open day also marks 90yrs since Ribble Motor Services began operations. RVPT intend to have a stand there, and a number of former Ribble buses are hoped to be in attendance.
 

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A bit oustide of the NW I know, but here's SC Manchester's movements;

FLEET REG

13234 C234ENE SOLD
13282 F282DRJ SOLD
13289 F289DRJ SOLD
13295 F295DRJ SOLD
13298 F298DRJ SOLD
13300 F300DRJ SOLD
13616 G189YRJ Gillmoss
13628 K688CBA Gillmoss
13632 H778VHL Gillmoss
13642 H625LNA Gillmoss

14239 F201FHH Gillmoss
14240 F202FHH Gillmoss

15313 H463GVM SOLD
15315 H465GVM SOLD
15316 H466GVM SOLD
15333 J133HMT SOLD
15336 J136HMT SOLD
15340 J140HMT SOLD
15341 J141HMT SOLD
15352 K852LMK SOLD
15353 K853LMK SOLD
15354 K854LMK SOLD
15355 K855LMK SOLD
15356 K856LMK SOLD
15359 K859LMK SOLD
15361 K861LMK SOLD
15363 K863LMK SOLD
15365 K865LMK SOLD
15368 K868LMK SOLD
15370 K870LMK SOLD
15373 E706EFG SOLD
15376 F112HNC SOLD
15377 F113HNC SOLD
15378 G115SBA SOLD
15382 M210NDB SOLD
15384 R108YBA Hyde Road -> Stockport
15444 MX08GHH Hyde Road -> Reserve
15445 MX08GHJ Hyde Road -> Reserve
15446 MX08GHK Hyde Road -> Reserve
15447 MX08GHN Hyde Road -> Reserve
15448 MX08GHO Hyde Road -> Reserve
15449 MX08GHU Hyde Road -> Reserve
15452 MX08GHZ Hyde Road -> Stagecoach East
15453 MX08GJE Hyde Road -> Stagecoach East
15454 MX08GJF Hyde Road -> Stagecoach East
15455 MX08GJG Hyde Road -> Stagecoach East

16004 P804GMU Reserve -> Hyde Road
16005 P805GMU Reserve -> Hyde Road
16007 P807GMU Stockport -> Hyde Road
16124 R124EVX Stockport -> Princess Road
16184 P484HBA Disposal -> Princess Road
16189 S959URJ Reserve -> Princess Road
16510 R510UWL Hyde Rd. -> Princess Rd.
16512 R512UWL Stockport -> Princess Rd.

19447 MX58VAA NEW -> Hyde Road
19448 MX58VAD NEW -> Hyde Road
19449 MX58VAE NEW -> Hyde Road
19450 MX58VAF NEW -> Hyde Road
19451 MX58VAH NEW -> Hyde Road
19452 MX58VAJ NEW -> Hyde Road
19453 MX58VAK NEW -> Hyde Road
19454 MX58VAM NEW -> Hyde Road
19455 MX58VAO NEW -> Hyde Road
19456 MX58VAU NEW -> Hyde Road

20677 R677HCD Hyde Road -> Stagecoach Yorkshire
20877 P877MNE Hyde Road -> Stagecoach Yorkshire
20880 P880MNE Hyde Road -> Stagecoach Yorkshire
20928 R928XVM Hyde Road -> Stagecoach Yorkshire
20930 R930XVM Hyde Road -> Stagecoach Yorkshire
20942 R942XVM Hyde Road -> Stagecoach Yorkshire

22097 MX54XLC Reserve -> Charles St.
22164 T164MVM Reserve -> Stockport
22178 T178MVM Reserve -> Hyde Road

42551 P551PNE Charles St. -> Reserve

47670 MX58HCJ NEW -> Reserve
47671 MX58HCK NEW -> Reserve
 

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i like the:
15444 MX08GHH Hyde Road -> Reserve
15445 MX08GHJ Hyde Road -> Reserve
15446 MX08GHK Hyde Road -> Reserve
15447 MX08GHN Hyde Road -> Reserve
15448 MX08GHO Hyde Road -> Reserve
15449 MX08GHU Hyde Road -> Reserve

part best.
reserve usually means transfer to another SC area, which could be SCNW for 300 / X5 :-P
just think, E400 bodied Scania's could be running around Cumbria haha
 

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They are actually going to Stagecoach East at Kettering

i like the:
15444 MX08GHH Hyde Road -> Reserve
15445 MX08GHJ Hyde Road -> Reserve
15446 MX08GHK Hyde Road -> Reserve
15447 MX08GHN Hyde Road -> Reserve
15448 MX08GHO Hyde Road -> Reserve
15449 MX08GHU Hyde Road -> Reserve

part best.
reserve usually means transfer to another SC area, which could be SCNW for 300 / X5 :-P
just think, E400 bodied Scania's could be running around Cumbria haha
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