Scotrail Class 385 Discussion

[Chuggington21]

The 380s windows should be locked at all times unless your stuck on the main line and the power from the wires are off. The driver can alter the temp by +/- 3 degrees.

385s are totally sealed no windows on the unit open. The 1st class area is larger than the 1st class on the 170

 

[GrimShady]

385s are totally sealed no windows on the unit open. The 1st class area is larger than the 1st class on the 170

What are the seats/lighting like? Would you say it's an improvement over the 170?

 

[Chuggington21]

What are the seats/lighting like? Would you say it's an improvement over the 170?

Overall i would say a big improvement. The seats are alot harder but are strangely more comfortable. The unit is much smoother as well. It's just as quick and brakes just as well as the 380 but it doesn't feel as harsh

 

[GrimShady]

Overall i would say a big improvement. The seats are alot harder but are strangely more comfortable. The unit is much smoother as well. It's just as quick and brakes just as well as the 380 but it doesn't feel as harsh

Thanks for the update! Are curtains and table lamps included?

 

[scotraildriver]

The first class seats are the same as the standard ones in the GWR IET while standard gets ironing boards. No table lamps.

 

[385001]

Alex Hynes replied to someone on twitter yesterday who asked him when the 385s will enter service.

He replied "Next month hopefully!"

https://twitter.com/AlexHynes/status/1008397901226180608

 

[Chuggington21]

Yeah they have a date pencilled in. It will only be 1 maybe 2 units and I don't think it will be the E&G to start

 

[SC318250]

Looks like a 385 delivery tonight usual times

 

[InOban]

Presumably current deliveries will be already fitted with the flat windows? Any word on whether they've started modifying those already here?

 

[GusB]

Presumably current deliveries will be already fitted with the flat windows? Any word on whether they've started modifying those already here?

They'll have the original screens. The modifications are to be done at Knorr Bremse in Springburn.

https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/06/01/full-glasgow-to-edinburgh-electric-service-in-july/

Meanwhile, the problem with the curved windscreens fitted to the class 385 EMUs is close to resolution. On 25th May, ScotRail announced that after trialling a unit fitted with a flat windscreen, feedback from all parties, including the driver’s union Aslef, is that this flat windscreen is fit for purpose. However, before they can enter service, the type approval process has to be finalised, mileage accumulations runs are required and the new flat windscreens need to be fitted to the units that have already been built. This is also to be done at the Knorr-Bremse RailServices depot at Springburn.

 

[superkev]

Have many drivers been trained yet on the 385's.
K

 

[glasgowtripper]

On my way home from Edinburgh last night, a 385 was at Linlithgow around 23:15(ish...) heading towards edinburgh.

 

[InOban]

I suspect that tonight's delivery is cancelled. A light engine is returning to Tyne yard.

 

[InOban]

No it isn't cancelled. Running almost an hour late.

 

[InOban]

Now seems to have been cancelled.

 

[Chuggington21]

Have many drivers been trained yet on the 385's.
K

Quite a few probably more than what trained on 365 currently

 

[SC318250]

385 deliveries showing on RTT for tonight, Thursday and Friday

 

[Typhoon_93]

385 deliveries showing on RTT for tonight, Thursday and Friday

Looks like tonight’s isn’t running as the light engine is showing cancelled.

 

[Typhoon_93]

Update from Aycliffe 26/06/18
385006-013 complete and testing
385017-024 in production.
385031/033 complete and testing.
385105-116 complete and testing.
385117-121 in production.
Only 20 more 3 car sets to arrive and that’s the build complete.

 

[Carntyne]

They'll have the original screens. The modifications are to be done at Knorr Bremse in Springburn.

https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/06/01/full-glasgow-to-edinburgh-electric-service-in-july/

Units which haven't had windscreens fitted will have the mod carried out before leaving Newton Aycliffe.

 

[Typhoon_93]

Units which haven't had windscreens fitted will have the mod carried out before leaving Newton Aycliffe.

With 385104 now having a new screen fitted they must also be doing them at Craigentinny.

 

[GrimShady]

When is the first set due to enter revenue service?

 

[sng7]

When is the first set due to enter revenue service?

From further up this page:

Alex Hynes replied to someone on twitter yesterday who asked him when the 385s will enter service.

He replied "Next month hopefully!"

https://twitter.com/AlexHynes/status/1008397901226180608

 

[route101]

Wonder how long we will see 170s on the Edinburgh to Queen St route?

 

[SC318250]

I wouldnt be suprised to see the 385 units going on the remaining diesel diagram 1st then the 380 diagrams, then the North Berwick runs with the 365s operating 3 or 4 of the 8 trains per hr to start with

 

[sqrtc]

Wonder how long we will see 170s on the Edinburgh to Queen St route?

Not long, 385s got approved to go into passenger traffic and are set to start second half of July

https://twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/1012677193212813313?s=19

 

[mic505]

I thought the priority was 3tph electric (380,365 & 385) and 1tph diesel (class 170) Edinburgh-Queen Street. Thus eliminating short carriages. Don't forget the final six 170/4's go to Northern in November. Hopefully more modified 385's will enter traffic in the autumn.

 

[gsnedders]

I thought the priority was 3tph electric (380,365 & 385) and 1tph diesel (class 170) Edinburgh-Queen Street. Thus eliminating short carriages. Don't forget the final six 170/4's go to Northern in November. Hopefully more modified 385's will enter traffic in the autumn.

Once the 385s come in I presume we'll move to 365/385 operation (given the 365s are relatively unlikely to see use elsewhere?) freeing up the 170s for DMU routes, as then we'll have a surplus of EMUs due to the having the 365s in addition to what was expected.

 

[The_Engineer]

I thought the priority was 3tph electric (380,365 & 385) and 1tph diesel (class 170) Edinburgh-Queen Street. Thus eliminating short carriages. Don't forget the final six 170/4's go to Northern in November. Hopefully more modified 385's will enter traffic in the autumn.

That's the initial plan. Once enough 385s are available I am sure the E&G diesel workings will soon go.

 

[gingertom]

That's the initial plan. Once enough 385s are available I am sure the E&G diesel workings will soon go.

I agree, there's more diesels going off lease next month so as soon as 385s are passed for service they will be in service.