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[Class 466]

SE 395s and 375s/377s are now showing, as well as AT 153s

The PTOSL is the wrong way round on the 375s and the 3 cars are without diagrams, otherwise great though!

 

[BillStampy]

AT 153 sets have been updated to include new /5 graphic.

 

[ainsworth74]

I have a bit of a feature request if I may?

Would it be possible to have when filtering stations some facility to have multiple stations within the filter? For instance, if at Sunderland and looking at trains towards Newcastle on a random Wednesday between 1200 and 1300 in a few months you might put the location as Sunderland then filter by calling point for subsequently to be Newcastle. That would show you one Northern service at 1231. But that misses the bulk of the service. If you refilter for Newcastle (Metro) that reveals the six Tyne and Wear Metro services that run in that same hour but excludes the Northern service.

It would therefore be nice if you could filter the subsequent on a "Calls at X or Y" basis as that would easily allow you to see both sets of services at somewhere like Sunderland.

 

[D6700]

I have a bit of a feature request if I may?

Would it be possible to have when filtering stations some facility to have multiple stations within the filter? For instance, if at Sunderland and looking at trains towards Newcastle on a random Wednesday between 1200 and 1300 in a few months you might put the location as Sunderland then filter by calling point for subsequently to be Newcastle. That would show you one Northern service at 1231. But that misses the bulk of the service. If you refilter for Newcastle (Metro) that reveals the six Tyne and Wear Metro services that run in that same hour but excludes the Northern service.

It would therefore be nice if you could filter the subsequent on a "Calls at X or Y" basis as that would easily allow you to see both sets of services at somewhere like Sunderland.

York to Manchester is similar, as is Edinburgh to Glasgow. I'd expect there will be plenty of other examples, too, especially around London. I guess one way around it could be to create station groups, which appears to be how planning software gets around it.

 

[ainsworth74]

York to Manchester is similar, as is Edinburgh to Glasgow. I'd expect there will be plenty of other examples, too, especially around London. I guess one way around it could be to create station groups, which appears to be how planning software gets around it.

Oh yes those are good example as well! The one I mentioned came to mind as I was up there last night bemoaning the fact I had to check twice to get the full timetable

 

[DarloRich]

Outrageously there are STILL no LNWR 150 graphics uploaded. What kind of operation are they running over at RTT Towers?

Close site now!

 

[xotGD]

Now that people are paying they want the moon on a stick.

 

[DarloRich]

Now that people are paying they want the moon on a stick.

i am not even paying!

 

[ainsworth74]

i am not even paying!

Free loader!

 

[TheSel]

Now that people are paying they want the moon on a stick.

... with the different phases of the moon, and with different lengths of stick to reflect the apogee and perigee of the moon's elliptical orbit, being displayed throughout the month, please.

 

[chrisjo]

AT 153 sets have been updated to include new /5 graphic.

I want to see the other side when it comes back the other way.

 

[tfw756rider]

TfW 756s are up

Someone let @tfw756rider know! He'd be ecstatic!

Oh my gosh!!! Yesss I am!!! Thank you so much Realtime Trains!

Outrageously there are STILL no LNWR 150 graphics uploaded. What kind of operation are they running over at RTT Towers?

Close site now!

Exactly, that's just completely and utterly unacceptable - how dare they leave those out!

Yep, and end the world

 

[Phillipimo]

TfW 756s are up

Dare I be the pendant to say that for 4 car units the intermediate coach without space for wheelchair users should have 2 sets of doors. And the set of doors on the other intermediate coach should at the end closest to the power pack

 

[Peter749]

If I wanted to be Pedantic I would point out the Northern 769s are not shown correctly - The Pantograph on the MSO is next to the Disabled Toilet on the TSOL - but the graphics are wrong and don't reverse.





But I'm quite happy just to have these graphics compared with what we used to have.

So keep up the good work Tom.

Peter

 

[XCTurbostar]

I noted a strange glitch earlier today where the destination is blank. The metadata shows this as the TIPLOC 'BRWSUSX' which is Berwick (Sussex).

Realtime Trains | 6U84 2020 Horsham M.D.U. Siding to | 04/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 6U84 2020 departure from Horsham M.D.U. Siding to on 04/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[zwk500]

I noted a strange glitch earlier today where the destination is blank. The metadata shows this as the TIPLOC 'BRWSUSX' which is Berwick (Sussex).

Realtime Trains | 6U84 2020 Horsham M.D.U. Siding to | 04/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 6U84 2020 departure from Horsham M.D.U. Siding to on 04/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

That's very odd as Glynde or Berwick is also blank prior to Polegate.

It is a VSTP schedule though so wonder if there was something odd in how it was entered into TRUST.

 

[takno]

I noted a strange glitch earlier today where the destination is blank. The metadata shows this as the TIPLOC 'BRWSUSX' which is Berwick (Sussex).

Realtime Trains | 6U84 2020 Horsham M.D.U. Siding to | 04/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 6U84 2020 departure from Horsham M.D.U. Siding to on 04/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

It's listed as Berwick (Sussex) on railwaycodes, but even then only as a secondary code to the main one which is BERWICK. BRWSUSX hasn't appeared in a CIF file all year, so it's likely that most sites won't recognise it.

I'd guess it was just the wrong code selected when the VSTP was input.

 

[tfw756rider]

I noted a strange glitch earlier today where the destination is blank. The metadata shows this as the TIPLOC 'BRWSUSX' which is Berwick (Sussex).

Realtime Trains | 6U84 2020 Horsham M.D.U. Siding to | 04/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 6U84 2020 departure from Horsham M.D.U. Siding to on 04/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

What is this "metadata" thing you're on about? And what does TIPLOC mean?

 

[FGW_DID]

What is this "metadata" thing you're on about? And what does TIPLOC mean?

TIPLOC = Timing Point Location.

 

[tfw756rider]

It's listed as Berwick (Sussex) on railwaycodes, but even then only as a secondary code to the main one which is BERWICK. BRWSUSX hasn't appeared in a CIF file all year, so it's likely that most sites won't recognise it.

I'd guess it was just the wrong code selected when the VSTP was input.

What is a CIF file? The only acronym I know here is VSTP which is Very Short Term Plan.

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Timing Point Location or something like that.

Ah, that answers the TIPLOC part, thanks

 

[chrisjo]

What is a CIF file?

CIF File Format - Open Rail Data Wiki

 

[takno]

What is a CIF file? The only acronym I know here is VSTP which is Very Short Term Plan.

CIF is short for Common Interchange Format, which is a standard for specifying timetables in.

In the context of train websites in the UK it essentially refers to the full "planned" timetable, including STP schedules and 'P-coded' cancellations, but excluding VSTPs and on-the day cancellations. This is shared by Network Rail overnight in the form of a CIF file.

The CIF files use TIPLOC codes to specify the locations a train is passing through. They also contain a separate record with TIPLOC and name for every location which is referred to in the file (and usually a fair number of others which aren't).

There are TIPLOCs being created and going out of use all the time, as well as a lot which only exist for weird historical reasons, but if a TIPLOC doesn't appear in any CIF files, then it's basically not being used for timetabling, and probably shouldn't have appeared in a VSTP

 

[Tom]

Berwick (Sussex) has always had issues with the correct TIPLOCs being used as there are different ones in BPLAN vs CIF, etc. its like playing whack a mole.

 

[MrJeeves]

Berwick (Sussex) has always had issues with the correct TIPLOCs being used as there are different ones in BPLAN vs CIF, etc. its like playing whack a mole.

Have they ever considered deleteing one and just using the other? Just a thought...

Feel free to contact me for any other mindblowing solutions, by the way.

 

[tfw756rider]

CIF File Format - Open Rail Data Wiki

CIF is short for Common Interchange Format, which is a standard for specifying timetables in.

In the context of train websites in the UK it essentially refers to the full "planned" timetable, including STP schedules and 'P-coded' cancellations, but excluding VSTPs and on-the day cancellations. This is shared by Network Rail overnight in the form of a CIF file.

The CIF files use TIPLOC codes to specify the locations a train is passing through. They also contain a separate record with TIPLOC and name for every location which is referred to in the file (and usually a fair number of others which aren't).

There are TIPLOCs being created and going out of use all the time, as well as a lot which only exist for weird historical reasons, but if a TIPLOC doesn't appear in any CIF files, then it's basically not being used for timetabling, and probably shouldn't have appeared in a VSTP

Thanks both

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Strangely enough the 375 little image only shows up for some trains - mainly /6s I’ve noticed!

 

[Farigiraf]

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a feature that allows you to filter for trains by platform? Would be helpful for seeing specific services out of a junction station, for example. Could be a subscription feature.

 

[tfw756rider]

Also, to hide timetabled bus services that are on the "train" schedule system (for the purpose of them accepting train tickets for "bus+train" journeys).

Aberystwyth for example, I'd just like to see the trains to Shrewsbury/Birmingham (and Machynlleth in the evening), not have about two thirds of the page taken up by the T1 (Carmarthen) and T2 (Bangor etc.) buses.

I do still very much appreciate Realtime Trains of course.

 

[Falcon1200]

Also, to hide timetabled bus services that are on the "train" schedule system

And the same for ship connections please; A different Operator code from the TOC at the station would solve that.

 

[QueensCurve]

Realtimetrains autocompolete offers a location "Staff Car (Do Not Delete)". Does anyone know where this is or why it exists?

Realtime Trains | Departures from Staff Car (Do Not Delete) between 0200 and 0159 on 09/11/2025