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theageofthetra
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Getting warmer. It was a banker but not 0-10-0 and was not used underground
Desperation department: I suppose it wasn't the Camden & Amboy's 0-8-0 Monster (late 1830s), was it? This seems to have been such a weird machine, that "no fireman but nonetheless employing a fireman", would have been the least of its weirdnesses.
theageofthetra
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A good guess but not that one. Monsters had lever drive (like some rack locomotives) but carried a fireman. This one had more driven wheels.
One last guess & I'll make it open floor if no one gets it.
One last guess & I'll make it open floor if no one gets it.
Ok, one last guess. An 0-12-0 from somewhere like Russia, possibly using electricity to heat water, for working in a mine?
You did say guess...
Edit. You didn't say underground so forget that bit
You did say guess...
Edit. You didn't say underground so forget that bit
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theageofthetra
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Ok feel like giving it to you as you made an effort and got wheel arrangement correct. The first 12 coupled locomotive was the Philadelphia built in 1863 for the Philadelphia & Reading Line. It was an 0-12-0 tank locomotive used for banking. As was not uncommon in the US until banned in the early part of 20th c it was a camelback for the driver. The fireman stoked it up in the siding, but he had no accomodation so it just banked up the hill it worked with the fire in the grate and boiler pressure obtained. It sort of makes sense as it would have run back down the grade without using much steam other than braking.
Your floor.
Your floor.
Well thank you, I don't feel like I covered myself in glory there but here goes.
What have these all got in common?
GWR Prairie tank
Class 20
Class 40
Class 67
101 DMU.
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Perhaps I'd better add a couple more.
GWR single car railcar
Class 33
Can't think of a clue that won't give this away instantly.
I suppose you could say these aren't up to the standards of today...
What have these all got in common?
GWR Prairie tank
Class 20
Class 40
Class 67
101 DMU.
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Perhaps I'd better add a couple more.
GWR single car railcar
Class 33
Can't think of a clue that won't give this away instantly.
I suppose you could say these aren't up to the standards of today...
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BurtonM
Member
The clue seems to suggest they've all had accidents under similar premises...
.theageofthetra
Established Member
Been crashed deliberately for tv, movie or safety demonstration.
Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
Have they all been the subject of Hornby models in the "less well detailed" era?
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Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
Lima, then?
Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
Thank you.
Staying on the model railway theme, the scenery of which well known open to the public model railway contains several titles that would in real life be ideal for inclusion on the thread about businesses with funny names?
Staying on the model railway theme, the scenery of which well known open to the public model railway contains several titles that would in real life be ideal for inclusion on the thread about businesses with funny names?
Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
It is indeed.
The names of the model businesses there would fill a thread on their own!
Your floor.
The names of the model businesses there would fill a thread on their own!
Your floor.
I recall with pleasure the Bekonscot sign of Madame Zeena Gowst, the clairvoyant.
Question:
An Italian railway enthusiast, when talking of the "metre gauge", may not be referring to lines with an actual gauge of 1000 mm. If that is the case -- what's he on about?
theageofthetra
Established Member
Italian metre gauge is different because they measured the gauge from the centre of the railhead not the inside- its less 950/60 mm?
Correct; and, your floor. Sub-standard gauge for Italy and its former colonies, is 950 mm.
(The quiz aside I gather that Italians do often refer to their 950 mm gauge, just as metre gauge. In which case, what do they call genuine 1000 mm gauge? I have personally fallen foul of these potential confusions, at least once.
Ive come across elsewhere also, the explanation of the difference viz. that the Italians measured from centre to centre of each rail; as opposed to as per your statement from the inside. Perhaps Im being stupid here: but Id have thought that measuring from inside-rail to inside-rail would give a lesser, not a greater, width. Any clarification would be appreciated.)
theageofthetra
Established Member
Makes sense really- the Italians measured 1m between the centre of the railhead so if you then move to the inside of the rail it was 950mm
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Next question-
In the 1930's a series of locomotives were developed for export which had the following features-
550psi water tube boiler
12 cylinders
Compound
Two 6 wheel bogies, all being driven
If a pair of cylinders had a fault they could be isolated quickly and the locomotive could keep going
Metre gauge
Roller bearings
Geared drive
Who built this very advanced locomotive and where was it sold to (where needless to say it was too complex for the locals to maintain and too remote to get spares)
Ah, got you -- I had the thing "twisted" in my mind. The explanation of this business found in the book, as alluded to, was a bit ambiguous.
Might this have been the three articulated Sentinel type geared locos, built indeed by Sentinel of Shrewsbury, for the Ferrocarril Nordeste of Colombia?
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theageofthetra
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Blimy that was quick it was. Its well worth reading up the memoirs of the representative from Doble (who built the steam motors for these bizarre locos ) who worked out in Colombia. A big problem they had on Colombian railways were that the indigenous had no sense of speed as they had never traveled faster than they could run. Often they would just step off a train at 30mph with inevitable results
Your floir
One gathers that while Colombia is a lovely place in many ways, life has always been cheap there. A thing about this loco type which pleases me is the late A.E. Durrant's likening the locos in appearance, to a pregnant hippopotamus.
Next question:
What is the connection between a narrow-gauge abandonment of nearly eighty years ago; and a TV animated cartoon series renowned for bad taste and irreverence / blasphemy?
Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
Bad taste? That's got to be the South Park Railroad, surely?
Open floor if I'm right - don't have anything ready...
Open floor if I'm right - don't have anything ready...
Yes: the 3ft gauge Denver, South Park & Pacific Railroad, later incorporated in the Colorado & Southern Railway. The 3ft -- essentially Denver to Leadville -- was abandoned in April 1937 (a short stub survived for a while for freight only).
As per your request, open floor.
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With its having been "open floor" for 36 hours: I'll venture to set another one.
Concerning rack railways / sections: probably the two best-known types of rack are Riggenbach, and Abt. Please name two further types of rack which are still in use at the present day.
theageofthetra
Established Member
Locher as used on the Pilatus & Strub on the Jungfrau. There were some other ones used mainly in industrial locations but doubt they still operate.
Correct -- your floor. Other "possibles" that I see: Marsh (used on the Mount Washington Cog Railway); and Lamella alias Von Roll (used on most rack lines built from late 20th century on).