Railway General Knowledge.

[Welshman]

Whitwell & Reepham station ....


(...open floor if correct as I shall be away from my PC for the rest of the day..)

Correct.

So, as the man says......

 

[Buttsy]

Which part of the old GWR (excluding any joint lines) was first to be electrified?

 

[steamybrian]

I am still here so ..

Paddington- Westbourne Park was pure GWR and was electrified as part of the Hammersmith and City Line in 1906.


...open floor if correct..

 

[Buttsy]

I am still here so ..

Paddington- Westbourne Park was pure GWR and was electrified as part of the Hammersmith and City Line in 1906.


...open floor if correct..

Incorrect, accroding to Wikipedia (which is all I have access to at present): A railway west from Paddington to Hammersmith opened and this soon became operated and owned jointly by the Metropolitan and Great Western railways.

 

[TheEdge]

Lets be entirely unlikely and guess Paddington - Airport Junction. I am 100% sure that is probably wrong.

 

[Buttsy]

Nope.

The bit I understand it to be is very short...

 

[Track Basher]

How about Rock Ferry to Birkenhead.

 

[Welshman]

Wasn't the Rock Ferry to Hooton section [ie an extension of the previously electrified Mersey Railway from Liverpool Central], the first to be actually on ex Great Western metals?

 

[Buttsy]

Wasn't the Rock Ferry to Hooton section [ie an extension of the previously electrified Mersey Railway from Liverpool Central], the first to be actually on ex Great Western metals?

Sorry, but that was part of the Birkenhead Joint from Chester.

You're now thinking about the right part of the GWR...

Remember, it was a short section.

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Platform 7 at Chester station?

 

[Buttsy]

Further South. The electrics that run over this track are not in publice service.

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Of course...

Oxley shed to the junction north of Wolverhampton station??

 

[Buttsy]

Of course...

Oxley shed to the junction north of Wolverhampton station??

Correct!

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Can't think of a decent one - open floor...

 

[steamybrian]

Correct!

The Central Line extension from North Acton to West Ruislip was actually built by the GWR in 1947 and has handed over to the London Underground upon opening or just after as an electrified line.

 

[Buttsy]

The Central Line extension from North Acton to West Ruislip was actually built by the GWR in 1947 and has handed over to the London Underground upon opening or just after as an electrified line.

As far as I can ascertain, the Central Line extension, completed in 1947, was built alongside the New North Main Line, not from it's existing formation, which is still in place. However, I will hold my hands up for giving an incorrect answer as I have found that the GWR Ealing & Shepherd's Bush railway is the modern day Central line from Shepherd's Bush to Ealing Broadway and was first used by the Central London Railway in 1920.

While you are not quite correct (and Northolt Junction to West Ruislip would have been a 'joint' line anyway), you've found the area where the GWR was first electrified, so I would say that you are more correct than myself and D841 Roebuck.

 

[steamybrian]

I attach scans of two GWR tickets one from Hangar Lane (dated 1947) and one from North Acton both are stations on the now Central Line tube.

 

[Buttsy]

I attach scans of two GWR tickets one from Hangar Lane (dated 1947) and one from North Acton both are stations on the now Central Line tube.

Fairly dos, I wasn't arguing that you were incorrect, just that I was unable to find anything to confirm your comments.

However, during the search to confirm or deny your answer, I found that the Ealing & Shepherds Bush railway of the GWR was the first as this became an extension of the Central Line in 1920 and would have been electrified before the West Ruislip extension.

I will say that I consider you to have come up with the more correct answer than my initial belief and so the floor is yours.

 

[steamybrian]

Fairly dos, I wasn't arguing that you were incorrect, just that I was unable to find anything to confirm your comments.

However, during the search to confirm or deny your answer, I found that the Ealing & Shepherds Bush railway of the GWR was the first as this became an extension of the Central Line in 1920 and would have been electrified before the West Ruislip extension.

I will say that I consider you to have come up with the more correct answer than my initial belief and so the floor is yours.

Noted with thanks. I did some independant research because I wanted to confirm the Ealing and Shepherds Bush Railway myself. The history of the former railway company lines in that area are some complicated so trying to understand who owned what lines is difficult.
Finally many tickets from my collection are illustrated on another continually updating web site however rules prevent me from giving my real name.

... open floor....

 

[Welshman]

As over a week's gone by, I'll post another.....

Signalboxes were usually out of bounds to those who were neither signallers nor stationmasters, but one rule in the old rule book specified certain others should visit.

To which rule am I alluding, who were involved, and in what circumstances?

 

[Mvann]

As over a week's gone by, I'll post another.....

Signalboxes were usually out of bounds to those who were neither signallers nor stationmasters, but one rule in the old rule book specified certain others should visit.

To which rule am I alluding, who were involved, and in what circumstances?

Rule 55, shunters, guards and firemen when held at a signal

 

[steamybrian]

As over a week's gone by, I'll post another.....

Signalboxes were usually out of bounds to those who were neither signallers nor stationmasters, but one rule in the old rule book specified certain others should visit.

To which rule am I alluding, who were involved, and in what circumstances?

Would it be Rule 55. I cannot remember the precise wording but to summarise-
If a train is delayed for a long time at a signal the fireman of a loco could go to the box to investigate and stay there until the delay is sorted. He also had to sign the box register to say he was present.

 

[Welshman]

I think Mvann just got in first with the salient details. Your turn.

 

[Mvann]

From the same rule book, how many detanators was a guard supposed to carry?

 

[Welshman]

Rule 129[iii] states "every guard must have with him not less than 12 detonators"

 

[Mvann]

Correct

 

[Welshman]

Where were the first of British Railways' dmus built, and upon which line were they introduced, and when? And for a bonus point, what nickname did they aquire, and why?

 

[steamybrian]

"Derby Lightweights" built at Derby around 1955.
First used on services in Yorkshire around Leeds/Bradford

 

[Welshman]

Yes - you've got it.

Originally, 8 2xcar units were built. As the name suggests, they were built of lighter alloys [which was to cause trouble later], and introduced on the Leeds Central-Bradford Exchange lines via Stanningley/Pudsey in June 1954.

I remember being taken on one as a child, and standing right up at the front, enjoying the view.

 

[steamybrian]

Yes - you've got it.

Originally, 8 2xcar units were built. As the name suggests, they were built of lighter alloys [which was to cause trouble later], and introduced on the Leeds Central-Bradford Exchange lines via Stanningley/Pudsey in June 1954.

I remember being taken on one as a child, and standing right up at the front, enjoying the view.

...open floor..