Quiet Coaches

[al78]

Define "emergency".

An "I'm in mortal danger" emergency?

An "I'm very important and work and I need to make sure I phone someone and say things loudly to them on a regular basis to remind them of this fact" emergency?

An "oh my God I put that picture on the Gram half an hour ago and only haven't even got 10 likes for it yet" emergency?

These things need to be clear...

Threat to life or property.

 

[shredder1]

Bit pointless having a quiet coach on a Virgin Pendo when the aircon's on full blast.

Haha, yeah I`ve noticed that, not as quiet as they could be

 

[al78]

Hah. Quiet Coach Gestapo. Love it.

And again......

Those who speak out against the antisocial behaviour get criticised, whilst the perpetrators get overlooked or excused. And we wonder why we have so much antisocial behaviour in the UK. :roll:

 

[shredder1]

And again......

Those who speak out against the antisocial behaviour get criticised, whilst the perpetrators get overlooked or excused. And we wonder why we have so much antisocial behaviour in the UK. :roll:

Its hardly antisocial behaviour answering a phone quietly in a quiet coach, more serious things take place on trains, trust me.

 

[NSE]

And again......

Those who speak out against the antisocial behaviour get criticised, whilst the perpetrators get overlooked or excused. And we wonder why we have so much antisocial behaviour in the UK. :roll:

Actually as someone who works with 'antisocial teenagers' I disagree to a very large extent. But my experience (not at all claiming that this is everyone's experience) is that those who try to sort out 'antisocial behaviour' come in extremely heavy handed. Particularly when asking a bunch of teenagers to be quiet. That, and they take the heavy handed approach with young mums and older folks having a natter.

 

[shredder1]

Actually as someone who works with 'antisocial teenagers' I disagree to a very large extent. But my experience (not at all claiming that this is everyone's experience) is that those who try to sort out 'antisocial behaviour' come in extremely heavy handed. Particularly when asking a bunch of teenagers to be quiet.

That`s been my findings working with YOT`s for a few years. However anyone who wants to be heavy handed in those situations with anyone had better make sure they can back themselves up.

 

[NSE]

That`s been my findings working with YOT`s for a few years. However anyone who wants to be heavy handed in those situations with anyone had better make sure they can back themselves up.

What's a YOT?

 

[shredder1]

What's a YOT?

Oh sorry mate, Youth Offenders Team, I`ve worked in prisons too.

 

[Cowley]

What's a YOT?

Yuppie
On
Telephone?

 

[shredder1]

Yuppie
On
Telephone?

Hahahaha

 

[NSE]

Oh sorry mate, Youth Offenders Team, I`ve worked in prisons too.

Oh nice. That's an interesting career! Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending their behaviour. But I've seen arrogant passengers just go over and go 'oi, it's the quiet coach!' Which does nothing but get their backs up immediately. Most of my lot would respond positively to a 'sorry guys, couldn't keep the noise down could you, this is actually the quiet coach'.

 

[NSE]

Yuppie
On
Telephone?

I do love Only Fools and as Del is a self professed yuppie, I'd happily listen to a yuppie on the phone haha. Much more entertaining journey

 

[Cowley]

Personally I feel more on edge sitting in a quiet coach than in a normal one due to worrying about people not being as quiet as they should be. I'd also prefer a carriage with a bit of general ambient noise, be that aircon, wheel noise, engine noise or just a bit of background hubbub, than a carriage so quiet that if someone's phone beeps because they've received a text it becomes annoying.

 

[shredder1]

Oh nice. That's an interesting career! Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending their behaviour. But I've seen arrogant passengers just go over and go 'oi, it's the quiet coach!' Which does nothing but get their backs up immediately. Most of my lot would respond positively to a 'sorry guys, couldn't keep the noise down could you, this is actually the quiet coach'.

I`m in education, training and employment, so work in all types of institutes, it has its moments though, but thanks. I agree with what you say though, that`s reasonable enough, its all about the way you speak to someone.

 

[Llanigraham]

And again......

Those who speak out against the antisocial behaviour get criticised, whilst the perpetrators get overlooked or excused. And we wonder why we have so much antisocial behaviour in the UK. :roll:

It is a quiet coach, not a silent coach!
Do you propose that no-one is allowed to even speak in one?

 

[cjmillsnun]

Phone calls are definitely not allowed. Emergency or no, it should have been taken in the vestibule.

Is it subject to a byelaw then? No. It's a request by the TOC, nothing more. So wind your neck in. Now if someone is being unnecessarily loud, then politely asking them to move to the vestibule is fine.

And sorry, if a call from family came through when I'm travelling then I'll take it. If I'm in a quiet coach then I'll talk softly for a few seconds to see if its an emergency or can wait. If it's an emergency, if I can do so quickly I'll move to the vestibule, if however I'm in a window seat and the trolley is coming one way and there are passengers grabbing something from the overhead the other way, I'll stay in my seat and take the call quietly as it disturbs less people.

I recently took a call in the quiet coach from dad, and he had to tell me my grandad had died. Interestingly enough no one objected to me taking the call, despite the fact I was talking for 5 minutes or so.

 

[Raul_Duke]

If you need monastery-like silence whilst travelling, then public transport may not be for you.

May I suggest a self driving car with a sensory deprivation chamber installed to ensure you arrive at your destinations suitably unstimulated?

 

[47271]

I avoid quiet coaches if at all possible, the tense mix of very occasional antisocial behaviour with the predictably uptight usual occupant is very irritating and puts me off my work more than phone conversations or the bish bish bish of headphones turned up too far.

There was a particular incident a few years ago that finished me off with the sorts of pompous self righteous geriatric that tends to inhabit Coach K on what was East Coast at the time.

I had to make, not take, two calls between Newcastle and Edinburgh. Both times I left my seat and moved to L, in other words there were two sets of vestibule doors between me and the precious quiet coach. I didn't even want to be in quiet, that's what the booking system gave me.

A ticket check occurred just after I returned to my seat for the second time. An elderly passenger one bay away from me thrust a quivering finger towards me and said 'this is the third time this month that people like that have been getting up and down to make calls, you have to do something about it'. The guard was great, she just said 'well, maybe we need more quiet coaches sir'.

So he was upset by the idea of someone on the phone on a train, not that he was directly disturbed by it.

I think some people need to get out more, and most of those people generally choose the quiet coach.

 

[AlterEgo]

Wear headphones and never worry about hearing other passengers again.

 

[shredder1]

The London Necropolis railway use to have a few quiet coaches, ideal for those would don`t want to be disturbed

 

[ChilternTurbo]

I find my fellow Chiltern commuters pretty respectful of the quiet coach although I suspect that might have something to do with the quite salubrious areas that they serve as well as the clear signage - especially on the 165s.
I really don't understand why people who wish to sustain long telephone conversations or chat with friends can't use the rest of the train that isn't the quiet carriage.

 

[Cowley]

The London Necropolis railway use to have a few quiet coaches, ideal for those would don`t want to be disturbed

And at least in one direction you'd get the carriage to yourself...

 

[shredder1]

And at least in one direction you'd get the carriage to yourself...

Yes I don`t think they did cheap day returns well I hope not

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

How quiet are you supposed to be in those coaches, talking quietly, heavy breathing, breaking wind?

The other day I noticed a guy take a 1 minute phone call while seated in one, it sounded like an emergency, when another passenger stood up and shouted the coach for him to be quiet, to which he responded with shut up and sit down unless you want to discuss it at the next stop! Everyone smiled. The guy sat down immediately and shut up

Both of those people sound extremely rude. I hate people like that.

 

[6Gman]

I avoid quiet coaches if at all possible, the tense mix of very occasional antisocial behaviour with the predictably uptight usual occupant is very irritating and puts me off my work more than phone conversations or the bish bish bish of headphones turned up too far.

There was a particular incident a few years ago that finished me off with the sorts of pompous self righteous geriatric that tends to inhabit Coach K on what was East Coast at the time.

I had to make, not take, two calls between Newcastle and Edinburgh. Both times I left my seat and moved to L, in other words there were two sets of vestibule doors between me and the precious quiet coach. I didn't even want to be in quiet, that's what the booking system gave me.

A ticket check occurred just after I returned to my seat for the second time. An elderly passenger one bay away from me thrust a quivering finger towards me and said 'this is the third time this month that people like that have been getting up and down to make calls, you have to do something about it'. The guard was great, she just said 'well, maybe we need more quiet coaches sir'.

So he was upset by the idea of someone on the phone on a train, not that he was directly disturbed by it.

I think some people need to get out more, and most of those people generally choose the quiet coach.

How very dare you get up and down in the Quiet Coach! Did you not know that you're to sit in your seat without speaking, eating or even moving for your entire journey?

 

[xotGD]

If we want to prevent conversations in the quiet coach, then we should only allow people travelling on their own.

However, labeling it as the "Singles Coach" might open up a whole new set of problems...

 

[shredder1]

Both of those people sound extremely rude. I hate people like that.

No, not at all, the guy who answered his phone was quiet and only on it for a minute, he was obviously distressed at the time too, the guy who shouted down the coach at him was lucky to get away without a good slapping :roll:

 

[shredder1]

I avoid quiet coaches if at all possible, the tense mix of very occasional antisocial behaviour with the predictably uptight usual occupant is very irritating and puts me off my work more than phone conversations or the bish bish bish of headphones turned up too far.

There was a particular incident a few years ago that finished me off with the sorts of pompous self righteous geriatric that tends to inhabit Coach K on what was East Coast at the time.

I had to make, not take, two calls between Newcastle and Edinburgh. Both times I left my seat and moved to L, in other words there were two sets of vestibule doors between me and the precious quiet coach. I didn't even want to be in quiet, that's what the booking system gave me.

A ticket check occurred just after I returned to my seat for the second time. An elderly passenger one bay away from me thrust a quivering finger towards me and said 'this is the third time this month that people like that have been getting up and down to make calls, you have to do something about it'. The guard was great, she just said 'well, maybe we need more quiet coaches sir'.

So he was upset by the idea of someone on the phone on a train, not that he was directly disturbed by it.

I think some people need to get out more, and most of those people generally choose the quiet coach.

Hahaha, "people like that", classic, I have a weak bladder, I hope I don`t get the quivering finger treatment, lol

 

[Busaholic]

Yes I don`t think they did cheap day returns well I hope not

Probably not many Advance fares sold either.

 

[yorkie]

As an aside, when booking on GWR HSTs while travelling with my bike I book quiet coach since that happens to be coach A, which is also where bikes are stowed. If I could pick “same coach as my bike will be stored” then I would, but for some reason that's not an option in the seat reservation preferences. Hey ho.

There is no difference booking Coach B or Coach A if comparing seats near each of the relevant vestibules. And of course higher numbered seats in Coach B are better than Coach A!