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Quiet Coaches

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12CSVT

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Perhaps there should be a supplement for travelling in the quiet coach (similar to the way weekend first is administered), and child rate tickets not valid.
To discourage those who are less likely to respect the quiet environment, quiet coaches should be entirely airline seating, seats only reserved for those who specify the quiet coach, and only reserved for people travelling alone (ie not travelling in groups)

Obviously these measures may need to be relaxed if the train is very busy.
 
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And just because you aren't in a quiet coach doesn't mean it is OK to listen to music without headphones!
 

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And just because you aren't in a quiet coach doesn't mean it is OK to listen to music without headphones!
I was in an Austrian RailJet earlier to-day, and an ÖBB member of staff - the guy who pushes a rubbish bin trolley along the train at intervals - had sat at the end of the coach and was doing this! (Wasn't a quiet coach mind, but all the same...)
 
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"Excuse me, please, would you mind taking your telephone call in the vestibule, as this is the quiet coach?" is not coming down on someone like a ton of bricks. It's a polite reminder of someone's responsibilities they accepted by sitting in that area. If it takes more than that, or the response is other than an apology and the cessation of the call as soon as feasible, they are a rude individual indeed.

Lots of people sit in priority seats because they like the extra space. I do. Sitting in one does not single someone out.

The common theme across all quiet coaches is no phone calls. I don't therefore think allowing a phone call where there is alternative accommodation allowing it, and where there exist a myriad of silent methods of communicating using a mobile phone, is "reasonable adjustment" for a disability (with the possible exception of a blind person who cannot use those other means and could not have seen the signage anyway).

Apologies Neil for the late reply, yes I do largely agree with you.
 

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Perhaps there should be a supplement for travelling in the quiet coach (similar to the way weekend first is administered), and child rate tickets not valid.
To discourage those who are less likely to respect the quiet environment, quiet coaches should be entirely airline seating, seats only reserved for those who specify the quiet coach, and only reserved for people travelling alone (ie not travelling in groups)

Obviously these measures may need to be relaxed if the train is very busy.

How can you police this when children under a certain age (usually 5) can travel free of charge if accompanied by a fare paying adult. Just imagine the next Daily Wail headline "Mother and toddler made to wait over two hours because children will not be carried on busy trains"

While dogs are carried free of charge on the national network, many heritage lines charge for them.

And children travelling free of charge should not occupy a seat if this makes a fare paying passenger stand.....
 
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Tim R-T-C

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Banning children seems gimmicky - plenty of kids on trains are perfectly quiet.

At the same time you could have a coach full of respectable, middle-aged gentlemen and ladies.... on their way back from Cheltenham races. Enjoy that.
 

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If you need monastery-like silence whilst travelling, then public transport may not be for you.

May I suggest a self driving car with a sensory deprivation chamber installed to ensure you arrive at your destinations suitably unstimulated?
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