Network SouthEast branding still in daily use?

[Anon Mouse]

Are the NSE signs still up at Newhaven Marine? They were about 18months ago when I paid a visit, although I'm sure I heard they had now gone?

I wish I had of took the screwdriver and WD40 to it 10 years ago when I had the chance haha
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Still some notepads knocking around the office, no doubt plenty more in various cupboards untouched for years...

any chance of me aquiring some??

 

[craigwilson]

Also one in the underpass and one still on platforms 1 & 3

...and platform 4.

 

[Electrostar]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but NSE branding has reappeared at Beckenham Junction. Sometime in the 1980s or 1990s a triangular BR totem was installed at the corner of Rectory Road on the station approach. It featured a three sided BR symbol, the station name and the NSE flashes. After privatisation Connex Southeastern crudely covered the NSE flashes with its trademark graduated lines branding. Connex Metro branding might have also appeared at some point but I can't be certain. After Connex were evicted, the publicly operated SouthEastern covered the Connex lines with white stickers. Over the years the totem itself became very grubby with the red background looking very faded. Suddenly a week or so ago I noticed the sign was looking very bright. The red is no longer faded, the white is bright, the blue lettering far more visible and low and behold three NSE flashes shining like beacons! My first thought was someone's cleaned it up but on closer inspection it looks like new signs have been plated over each side of the triangle. By who I don't know. I'd assume Southeasten (Now GoVia-operated) but why would they bring back NSE branding when they've changed signs at other local stations to include their logo under the station name and BR arrows? The totem itself is placed on a crossroads on the approach to the station so perhaps the local council or residents committee got so sick of the faded sign they paid for the original to be copied.

 

[NorthernSpirit]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but NSE branding has reappeared at Beckenham Junction. Sometime in the 1980s or 1990s a triangular BR totem was installed at the corner of Rectory Road on the station approach. It featured a three sided BR symbol, the station name and the NSE flashes. After privatisation Connex Southeastern crudely covered the NSE flashes with its trademark graduated lines branding. Connex Metro branding might have also appeared at some point but I can't be certain. After Connex were evicted, the publicly operated SouthEastern covered the Connex lines with white stickers. Over the years the totem itself became very grubby with the red background looking very faded. Suddenly a week or so ago I noticed the sign was looking very bright. The red is no longer faded, the white is bright, the blue lettering far more visible and low and behold three NSE flashes shining like beacons! My first thought was someone's cleaned it up but on closer inspection it looks like new signs have been plated over each side of the triangle. By who I don't know. I'd assume Southeasten (Now GoVia-operated) but why would they bring back NSE branding when they've changed signs at other local stations to include their logo under the station name and BR arrows? The totem itself is placed on a crossroads on the approach to the station so perhaps the local council or residents committee got so sick of the faded sign they paid for the original to be copied.

If you can get a photo of it then it would be great - NSE in the 21st Century. Burgess Hill still has NSE branding but it may have gone.

I know that Southern have replaced a few station totems along the Brighton Main Line so that the stations name is now in a dark green oblong which has completely obliterated the old NSE, NSC and CSE/CSC branding.

 

[JB25]

I like the old NSE livery. There's still a Red bin in NSE livery in the Selhurst Quiet Room.

 

[bicbasher]

Despite the works at London Bridge, one of the old NSE clocks has found a new use on the blue fence where work is taking place next to the bus station. It can be seen on trains coming from Waterloo East.

 

[maniacmartin]

Saw the NSE logo today at Bank LU (Waterloo & City line), painted on the floor under the white line at the platform edge. It's looking a bit worse for wear!

 

[DJ_K666]

London Victoria still has several clacker type clocks on the platforms.

 

[anthony263]

Certainly like the Intercity Swallow livery the Network southeast livery is one I would very much like to see return to the uk rail network.

It would look very good on crossrail

 

[David Goddard]

Certainly like the Intercity Swallow livery the Network southeast livery is one I would very much like to see return to the uk rail network.

It would look very good on crossrail

Here Here! A great branding for both Crossrail and the expanded Thameslink network.

 

[jopsuk]

I have wondered about how you'd do compliant contrast doors on NSE livery without messing it up. Remeber, they don't have to be garish- just look at Chiltern's ex WSMR Silver livery for how contrast can be done well.

 

[Manchester77]

Class 159 - DDA complient NSE by Manchester_77, on Flickr

That's how I did it by using white, only way I can really see, like if you did the red it'd be dark IMO

 

[DJ_K666]

Ironically the Island line in the 70s was DDA compliant(ish). Wide disabled friendly doors painted in a contrasting colour and relatively step free.

 

[yorksrob]

Class 159 - DDA complient NSE by Manchester_77, on Flickr

That's how I did it by using white, only way I can really see, like if you did the red it'd be dark IMO

That actually looks decent. I'd always assumed that proper liveries (such as toothpaste) would be ruined by contrasting doors, but that looks alright.

 

[Manchester77]

Yah I was shocked by how well it sat. I suppose of all the old BR liveries the hardest one to do would be intercity. Suppose the best colour to extend would be the black?

 

[yorksrob]

Yah I was shocked by how well it sat. I suppose of all the old BR liveries the hardest one to do would be intercity. Suppose the best colour to extend would be the black?

Yeah, that crossed my mind as well. Can't really imagine anything working with Swallow. Not convinced about black.

 

[Eagle]

Intercity would probably work best (best being a relative term as it is a horrible, awful livery and I refuse to be swayed on that matter) if you made the doors red with a small band of white either side. Making the doors white or black wouldn't contrast enough with the rest of the livery.

 

[yorksrob]

Intercity would probably work best (best being a relative term as it is a horrible, awful livery and I refuse to be swayed on that matter) if you made the doors red with a small band of white either side. Making the doors white or black wouldn't contrast enough with the rest of the livery.

OMG that would be hideous !

Red is only ever good in small doses - except for Royal Mail livery obviously - when it batters you into imperial submission.

 

[Manchester77]

a bit off topic but related to recent discussion - had a play around at how to make the regional railways livery compliant, i don't think it looks too bad


DDA compliant Class 170 - Regional Railways by Manchester_77, on Flickr

 

[Eagle]

Now that looks brilliant.

 

[yorksrob]

This is true. White on blue seems to work well.

 

[Manchester77]

Thanks I tried it with the light blue but it didn't stand out as well

 

[anthony263]

I have to say it looks very good on a class 170. I wouldnt mind seeing a class 395 in the intercity livery.

 

[yorksrob]

I have to say it looks very good on a class 170.

Might not work so well on a 308

 

[Eagle]

I wouldnt mind seeing a class 395 in the intercity livery.

NSE livery, surely? :P

(You may be surprised to know that NSE was already planning for HS1 domestic services as early as 1990. It would have been using a modified Networker called a Class 342.)

 

[Manchester77]

kinda started the 395 ages ago

Network SouthEast (Original Style) - Class 395 Preview by Manchester_77, on Flickr

 

[yorksrob]

(You may be surprised to know that NSE was already planning for HS1 domestic services as early as 1990. It would have been using a modified Networker called a Class 342.)

Growing up in Kent in the early 90's the channel tunnel rail link was very much a topic for discussion even though it didn't come about at that time, therefore I'm not surprised that NSE had a plan for it.

I would be disappointed if they'd not planned to have compartment carriages on the units along the same lines of the 442's.

 

[Manchester77]

the 371s were planned to have first class compartments, someone put the mock up on wikipedia a few months ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Classes_371,_381_and_471

 

[yorksrob]

the 371s were planned to have first class compartments, someone put the mock up on wikipedia a few months ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Classes_371,_381_and_471

Certainly looks a better job than Connex's effort.

 

[D365]

kinda started the 395 ages ago

Network SouthEast (Original Style) - Class 395 Preview by Manchester_77, on Flickr

Good going, but to be honest I find this attempt a lot better.