Network SouthEast branding still in daily use?

[Manchester77]

Good going, but to be honest I find this attempt a lot better.

same literally cannot put liveries onto actual images! that guys good though got real talent

 

[yorksrob]

Good going, but to be honest I find this attempt a lot better.

To be fair, that is excellent, but he didn't attempt to deal with the door issue !

 

[Eagle]

Good going, but to be honest I find this attempt a lot better.

That livery's so good-looking it's almost turned me pro-renationalization. :P
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To be fair, that is excellent, but he didn't attempt to deal with the door issue !

Again (and I know you'll disagree with this) the most contrastive option is probably to have red doors, with a small buffer area of white to separate it from the blue.

All-white doors might not work enough, being as the livery has quite a lot of white on it.

 

[yorksrob]

Again (and I know you'll disagree with this) the most contrastive option is probably to have red doors, with a small buffer area of white to separate it from the blue.

All-white doors might not work enough, being as the livery has quite a lot of white on it.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree ! I sort of agree your point because liveries with too much white tend to be horrible - but I think that with toothpaste, the white stripe is narrow enough not to be a problem.

 

[Muzer]

I can't see that particular livery working (ie looking good) with contrasting doors, as good as it looks without.

(My position on contrasting doors are that many liveries are improved by them - but I don't think that's one of them).

 

[transmanche]

(My position on contrasting doors are that many liveries are improved by them - but I don't think that's one of them).

Yep, liveries with stripes (and that means BR's InterCity/NSE/Regional liveries) are always going to be difficult to find a suitable contrasting colour for the door whilst still having an attractive livery.

I think that designs such as SWT red, SWT blue and LM have shown how the doors can be highlighted well, without ruining the overall effect.

 

[Muzer]

I'd add SWT white to that list. And I'm sure plenty of others, but my mind has suddenly drawn a blank now I'm trying to think of train liveries

In general (again, just my opinion, this is very subjective!) I find more "flowing" liveries to often look better with contrasting doors, as it breaks the flow anyway when they try to flow "through" the doors - so isn't it better to make it look intentional? More flat/angular/straight liveries like the NSE one will therefore never quite look as good in my opinion.

 

[transmanche]

I'd add SWT white to that list.

I left that one out, as they haven't done anything special around the doors!

In general (again, just my opinion, this is very subjective!) I find more "flowing" liveries to often look better with contrasting doors, as it breaks the flow anyway when they try to flow "through" the doors - so isn't it better to make it look intentional? More flat/angular/straight liveries like the NSE one will therefore never quite look as good in my opinion.

I think you're right there.

I also like liveries where they've tried to do something a bit different for highlighting the doors. Such as this SNCF Transilien livery:


Transilien SNCF, Orry la ville by blafond, on Flickr

Or the Thames Trains 'standard'...

165005 at Paddington by R~P~M, on Flickr

... and 'express' liveries:

166214 London Paddington by RyanTaylor1986, on Flickr

 

[Bungle73]

This isn't quite what was asked for, but I noticed this evening that one of the old CRT screens at Chatham has "British Rail Computing" on it.