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Merseyrail legacy fleet updates (Class 507/508)

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mikecmac

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Trains on Hunts Cross to Southport service full to standing room only leaving Central packed, only 3 car 507's running further compounding the over crowding problem by late afternoon.

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507018 operated 1612 Southport to Central service, Are there a shortage of 777's?
 
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I've still not seen any 8-car 777s in operation on the Southport- Hunts Cross line. Is there a problem with that and is that why the 507s are still struggling on?
 

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I have heard the 507's are going to operate on the Ormskirk line shortly to enable the displaced 777's to run as 8 cars on Southport services to help cope with the extra numbers travelling to the flower show.
 

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I have heard the 507's are going to operate on the Ormskirk line shortly to enable the displaced 777's to run as 8 cars on Southport services to help cope with the extra numbers travelling to the flower show.
That will be interesting. On a side note the 17:23 LVC-SOP could really do with being a 6 or 8 car. Things are particularly cosy on there at the moment
 

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Appears the following 507s are working on the Southport - Hunts Cross line as follows;
507016 - diagram 1
507018 - diagram 2
507003 & 507010 - diagram 3

Operating the usual 3 diagrams
Only 4/9 operationally ready for service is unusual. Guessing the heat must have really affected their availability
 

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The 507s don’t seem to be running to their normal diagrams, the 17:42 from hunts cross arrived into Brunswick at 17:49 as a 4 car and the 17:57 departure (18:02 BRW Arrival) is displayed as 4 car
 

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It doesn't seem to have been mentioned on here yet, but 507010, 016 and 017 are the next three due to be withdrawn and they should bow out towards the end of August. I've been advised the remaining six (507001/03/07/18/23/29) will continue on four remaining diagrams (two six-car formations) until December.

The 507s don’t seem to be running to their normal diagrams, the 17:42 from hunts cross arrived into Brunswick at 17:49 as a 4 car and the 17:57 departure (18:02 BRW Arrival) is displayed as 4 car
I assume you mean the 17.36 and 17.51 departures, neither of which are booked for 507s. The 507 workings closest to this time are at 16.21, 16.36 and 16.51, then the 18.51 and 19.06.
 

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Looks like the 6:01 Off Sandhills is no longer a pep, and slowly they go

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Is there an exact date for the next 3 units retirement, I might try get some ‘memorabilia’
 

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Looks like the 6:01 Off Sandhills is no longer a pep, and slowly they go

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Is there an exact date for the next 3 units retirement, I might try get some ‘memorabilia’
Should still be a 507 until at least the 18th of August. Perhaps it’s been substituted by a 777 just for today ? To be honest if availability isn’t great a 4 car will be better than a 3 from a capacity point of view.
 

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Looks like the 6:01 Off Sandhills is no longer a pep, and slowly they go

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Is there an exact date for the next 3 units retirement, I might try get some ‘memorabilia’
I imagine it's due to lack of availability, the diagrams havnt changed yet as far as I know.
 
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I caught 507 010 today at Formby @12:37 It wasn’t until I boarded I noticed it had been tagged, which is a real shame if it only has weeks left. Here is the view from inside.
It was attached to 507 003 on it’s way to Southport if anyone is trying to spot them.
 

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507001 plus another unidentified 507 have just entered New Brighton Wall Siding,

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507001 plus the other unidentified unit (leading) left New Brighton Wall Siding at 9,30 as 5T80 heading for Birkenhead North,
 
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507001 plus another unidentified 507 have just entered New Brighton Wall Siding,

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507001 plus the other unidentified unit (leading) left New Brighton Wall Siding at 9,30 as 5T80 heading for Birkenhead North,
I saw these 2 units at James Street platform 2 possibly heading for the Northern Line at around 16:20 06/08/24
 

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I saw these 2 units at James Street platform 2 possibly heading for the Northern Line at around 16:20 06/08/24
507001 and 507029 working the 1651 (2S44) Hunts Cross to Southport
507018 working the 1636 (2S43) Hunts Cross to Southport
507003 and 507010 working the 1621 (2S42) Hunts Cross to Southport
507023 currently stabled on platform 2 at Southport (after working 2S34 and being replaced with 001 and 029), possibly going to couple to 018 upon its return to Southport.

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Any idea what’s out today?
507001 and 507029 working the 1651 (2S44) Hunts Cross to Southport
507018 working the 1636 (2S43) Hunts Cross to Southport
507003 and 507010 working the 1621 (2S42) Hunts Cross to Southport
507023 currently stabled on platform 2 at Southport (after working 2S34 and being replaced with 001 and 029), possibly going to couple to 018 upon its return to Southport.
 

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Today's 507s include 507023 + 018, 507001 + 029 and 507010 + 003 on the 12.42, 12.57 and 13.12 departures from Southport respectively (first mentioned units were at the Southport end), whilst 507007 and 016 occupy the wall siding at New Brighton. 507017 is inside the repair shop at Birkenhead North receiving some attention.
 

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Apparently 017, 16 and 10 have been withdrawn from service, is there any confirmation on this
I don't have any inside info, but I'd be surprised if there's any withdrawls this week or next, unless there's a major failure. It's the Southport Flower Show next week, so it will be 'all hands to the pump' as it were, to cater for the additional visitors.

However, the following week, there's major engineering works closing the line between Formby and Hall Road - this link refers - which will reduce the requirements. Clearly this will also require changes to the "regular 507" diagrams.

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Due to Network Rail replacing a bridge that crosses the River Alt in Formby, the Southport line will be disrupted from Monday 19 to Friday 23 August 2024. Engineers will replace the bridge with a new concrete structure, making sure it is safe and reliable for years to come.

While the work takes place, train services will be unable to run between Hall Road and Formby.
 
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Units out today 3 6 car:

SOUTHPORT/HUNTS X:
010 + 003
023 + 018
029 + 001

007, 016 and 017 locations are unknown however im guessing they are at Birkenhead North
 
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